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Rudeboyelvis 07-16-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 875409)
"Now, my understanding is that Mr. Romney attested to the SEC multiple times that he was the chairman, CEO and president of Bain Capital. And I think most Americans figure if you're the chairman, CEO and president of a company, that you are responsible for what the company does," Obama said.

Which is of course 100% true... Unless you are me, I am not responsible for anything that happens in the outfit I am running.

Guy is ridiculous and no one ever calls him out on his nonsense.

The media in this country is controlled by the corporations which own congress and the executive branch. Thus you will never see anything that challenges their puppet.

You wind up with a populate of mindless, programmed sheep that refuse to think for themselves because it is easier to let someone else do that for them (RE: Already Home)


Even the resident board lunatic will attack you if you even mention the fact that it took 3 years and a private citizen to expose this fraud of a president's supposed birth - and then spends 3 pages trying to execute Romney over semantics, yet refuses to to even broach the topic of how the current fraud in chief lied about when he attended Columbia Law school, why he chose to flippantly disregard the Constitution of the US by refusing to provide his birth certificate when prompted prior to inauguration, why he continues to pass legislation that further erodes our civil rights and liberties guaranteed by the constitution that he wipes his ass with, and continues to believe that spending money we don't have = prosperity, etc.

I won't take 6 pages of incessant ramblings like Riot - most thinking adults not living in a perpetual stage of arrested development get it... Those that don't - have fun

Danzig 07-16-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AlreadyHome (Post 875404)
OBAMA had to inherit a debt and start a new cycle for the USA. Republican only care about their type what ever that is, :p which is a bad thing for the country... United we Stand =Obama

OBAMA IS THE FUTURE......4MORE YEARS:tro:

Romney sucks he's a typical american only cares about his class
Obama is universal, he cares for all class rich or poor
and thats the difference maker in this election.
REPUBLICANS FKD everything up and here comes Obama to fix the country.
battling these HATERS..... MY PRESIDENT IS BLACK...




Its The American Way

every president since martin van buren has come into office with the country in debt.
and both parties have contributed to the current mess in d.c, with congress deserving the lion's share of the blame. no one person caused it, and certainly no one person can fix it. but keep trying to make it all about race. for some it is, for many it's not.

Rudeboyelvis 07-16-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 875413)
every president since martin van buren has come into office with the country in debt.
and both parties have contributed to the current mess in d.c, with congress deserving the lion's share of the blame. no one person caused it, and certainly no one person can fix it. but keep trying to make it all about race. for some it is, for many it's not.

Yeah but the guy after Van Buren wasn't black. That's apparently very important.

AlreadyHome 07-16-2012 03:23 PM

lol race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 875413)
every president since martin van buren has come into office with the country in debt.
and both parties have contributed to the current mess in d.c, with congress deserving the lion's share of the blame. no one person caused it, and certainly no one person can fix it. but keep trying to make it all about race. for some it is, for many it's not.

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Yeah but the guy after Van Buren wasn't black. That's apparently very important.
wow just cause i say my Prezident is black, well if he or she was white
i'll be sayin My President is white.
and the only race that's going on is Romney vs Obama
i don't know why Romney is running against B/O, Obama is @the finish line With the Flag waving.

Bush fked everything up going to war because of his father and the machismo he had against the middle east. and that cause the country almost everything, and here comes Obama to set the future in motion and fix these stupid issues republicans started.

its so fked up the american dream is a nightmare......

fk politics who has the power has to do what ever is right for the country and its people plain and simple.


opps gotta go now is Hot, 94 and i'm gong in the pool.
water is 81 nice.............

for the record I'm not racist but my comment are @the edge

i love white people black people everyday people i'm like Obama universal
ohhh i love horses too.




bigrun 07-16-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlreadyHome
Bush fked everything up going to war because of his father and the machismo he had against the middle east. and that cause the country almost everything, and here comes Obama to set the future in motion and fix these stupid issues republicans started.

its so fked up the american dream is a nightmare......




Hey, they don't cotton to talk like that around here...but keep up the good work..:D:tro:

Danzig 07-16-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlreadyHome (Post 875438)
wow just cause i say my Prezident is black, well if he or she was white
i'll be sayin My President is white.
and the only race that's going on is Romney vs Obama
i don't know why Romney is running against B/O, Obama is @the finish line With the Flag waving.

Bush fked everything up going to war because of his father and the machismo he had against the middle east. and that cause the country almost everything, and here comes Obama to set the future in motion and fix these stupid issues republicans started.

its so fked up the american dream is a nightmare......

fk politics who has the power has to do what ever is right for the country and its people plain and simple.

opps gotta go now is Hot, 94 and i'm gong in the pool.
water is 81 nice.............

for the record I'm not racist but my comment are @the edge

i love white people black people everyday people i'm like Obama universal
ohhh i love horses too.




i mentioned race in my reply because you seem to always include it. and no, it's not just republicans that have caused the issues. and i doubt it's just dems who fix it.
and the race is far from over. i know you're a democratic/obama cheerleader-but it always puzzles me when fans get stars in their eyes and lose their ability to see the entire picture. this country has been going in the wrong direction for some time, and it's the collective inability by the entire fed to get things right that has caused our current issues. the banking de-regulation was signed into law by none other than pres. bill clinton. banking woes lead to failures in many areas.

and the wars were both approved by a democratic controlled congress, not just the republican president.

bigrun 07-16-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 875448)
and the wars were both approved by a democratic controlled congress, not just the republican president.


True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

Clip-Clop 07-16-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 875450)
True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

Yup, so stupid he fooled them all.

Danzig 07-16-2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 875450)
True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

bigrun, if the wool was pulled over anyone's eyes in that regard, why has there been no investigation? no hearings? no one has come forward and said anything was 'cooked'. why do you continue to claim that, when there's no evidence? congress was lied to, but did nothing? they will have hearings about drugs in horse racing, steroids in baseball, but they're not going to bother with lies from intelligence agencies? you really think that?

pointman 07-16-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 875450)
True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

You mean the same information that both Bush and Congress had at the time that they voted on the wars? Please show any evidence that Bush had any different information than Congress, and many Democrats who voted for the wars, had at the time of the vote.

pointman 07-16-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlreadyHome (Post 875438)
wow just cause i say my Prezident is black, well if he or she was white
i'll be sayin My President is white.
and the only race that's going on is Romney vs Obama
i don't know why Romney is running against B/O, Obama is @the finish line With the Flag waving.

Bush fked everything up going to war because of his father and the machismo he had against the middle east. and that cause the country almost everything, and here comes Obama to set the future in motion and fix these stupid issues republicans started.

its so fked up the american dream is a nightmare......

fk politics who has the power has to do what ever is right for the country and its people plain and simple.


opps gotta go now is Hot, 94 and i'm gong in the pool.
water is 81 nice.............

for the record I'm not racist but my comment are @the edge

i love white people black people everyday people i'm like Obama universal
ohhh i love horses too.




Our country is doomed when there are so many fools like this in it.

Danzig 07-16-2012 07:21 PM

people like to say 'congress was lied to' as an excuse, a whitewash...but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny at all. it's simple common sense. fast and furious generated a contempt charge against the AG, but no one has had anything filed for 'lying to congress to cause two wars'. because it didn't happen. that scandal would have been huge, and heads would have been rolling like mad. a president was impeached for firing a member of his cabinet, another impeached for lying under oath about whether he had any shenanigans with an intern. but not one charge filed for causing not one war, but two? because it didn't happen.

miraja2 07-17-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 875448)
and the wars were both approved by a democratic controlled congress.

Given that the Republicans were in the majority in the House from '95 - '06, I don't think this statement is quite accurate.

Danzig 07-17-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 875516)
Given that the Republicans were in the majority in the House from '95 - '06, I don't think this statement is quite accurate.

oh, sorry...guess my memory was faulty. didn't think the dems took over both houses til after that period
at any rate, congress certainly in lock step on the votes. one i believe was unanimous? the other was certainly vast majority vs very few.

miraja2 07-17-2012 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 875519)
at any rate, congress certainly in lock step on the votes. one i believe was unanimous? the other was certainly vast majority vs very few.

Actually the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution. I think it was something like 60% against.

Clip-Clop 07-17-2012 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 875523)
Actually the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution. I think it was something like 60% against.

81 for, 126 against

Danzig 07-25-2012 10:12 PM

update on bain/romney
 
saw this today on fact check:

http://factcheck.org/2012/07/bain-still-no-evidence/


The Obama campaign says a new Associated Press story backs up its claims that Mitt Romney “did not leave [Bain Capital] when he says he did,” and that he’s responsible for “American jobs that were outsourced” by Bain-controlled companies after February 1999. We don’t think so.

Some impressive reporting by the AP and others recently has shown that Romney retained ownership and corporate titles at Bain for a time after he took a hurried leave of absence on Feb. 11, 1999, to manage the 2002 Winter Olympics. That has been shown by any number of routine corporate disclosures with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and Romney even signed some of them.

But we’ve seen no evidence so far to show that Romney was actually running Bain, even part-time and from a distance of nearly 2,100 miles, as the Obama campaign wishes voters to believe. And we’ve seen no evidence to contradict what Romney has certified repeatedly to be true (under pain of federal prosecution): that he “has not had any active role” with Bain or “been involved in the operations” since that time.

Danzig 07-25-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 875523)
Actually the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution. I think it was something like 60% against.

i thought the first vote, to invade afganistan, was unanimous? that's the one i was thinking of, not iraq. didn't know the party split, just that it was a majority vote.

yeah, like i said here:

at any rate, congress certainly in lock step on the votes. one i believe was unanimous? the other was certainly vast majority vs very few.

3/4 in one, over 2/3 on the other. had the controlling party wrong, but overall was talking about congress as a whole voting-wise.

bigrun 07-25-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 877651)
i thought the first vote, to invade afganistan, was unanimous? that's the one i was thinking of, not iraq.


Quote:

Originally Posted by bigrun

True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...


Quote:

bigrun, if the wool was pulled over anyone's eyes in that regard, why has there been no investigation? no hearings? no one has come forward and said anything was 'cooked'. why do you continue to claim that, when there's no evidence? congress was lied to, but did nothing? they will have hearings about drugs in horse racing, steroids in baseball, but they're not going to bother with lies from intelligence agencies? you really think that?

And i was thinking of Iraq, guess i wasn't clear about that...

dagolfer33 07-26-2012 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlreadyHome (Post 875404)
OBAMA had to inherit a debt and start a new cycle for the USA. Republican only care about their type what ever that is, :p which is a bad thing for the country... United we Stand =Obama

OBAMA IS THE FUTURE......4MORE YEARS:tro:

Romney sucks he's a typical american only cares about his class
Obama is universal, he cares for all class rich or poor
and thats the difference maker in this election.
REPUBLICANS FKD everything up and here comes Obama to fix the country.
battling these HATERS..... MY PRESIDENT IS BLACK...




Its The American Way

Now this is REAL entertainment.:zz:


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