Too bad I couldn't delay my knee replacement until the ACA consumer protections kicked in - my insurance company couldn't have been able to refuse to pay 6 months after they approved me for the operation, and thus cost me thousands and thousands of dollars out of pocket.

But at least now the insurance companies can no longer refuse to cover me for arthritis and asthma for the next 50 years :tro: :)

Good comments. More fair to Scalia than what I've seen in the press lately. We'll see!

color me surprised that you would think this is good.

OK, I'm thinking green would be appropriate.

Such a shame you have me on invisible. Both HiI'mGod and I posted on that already. For the third time in the thread:

This is a huge opening for single payer healthcare. Once the exchanges get up and running in 2014 (they should have already been up and running so people don't remain uninsured), if costs are still too high after a year or two it's simple to just put Medicare on the exchanges for all ages.

Doing that would eliminate the private insurance companies - so I predict they will do very well on competitive exchange pricing for us.

Capitalism and free market competition - it's a good thing ;)

at any rate, i'm disappointed-the screwing of me and the rest of the middle class will only get worse. and i feel that this could be a pyhhric victory for obama, who has won a battle but may end up losing the war.

most americans hate the law. should be an interesting campaign going forward.

wonder when the next amended cbo report comes out, and what this'll do to our spending levels.

Yeah, now the rich can be taxed until they have nothing left so you don't have to pay anything out of your pocket! How great! :rolleyes:

What a scary decision this really is, there is now really no limit to what the government can do. Wonder how many jobs will be lost over this debacle.

The silver lining for this is that this will be just one more nail in the coffin that is Obama's chances of being re-elected.

Good point, hadn't thought of that...reason they passed it was to piss off most Americans and have them make a right turn...just in time for the election...:tro:

lol
and i hadn't thought of THAT! i doubt that is what produced the ruling tho.


the argument used in the ruling does engender questions for me tho. going forward, what else can the fed now decide is good for us, we must all have, and if we don't they will 'tax'? this just opened up a huge can of worms.
give a pol an inch, he'll take yours and everyone else's too!

The passage of the ACA has nothing to do with taxing the rich. Good lord, that's a crazy statement. Straight out of "Republican Lie Land". No. This is not a $5 billion dollar "tax on America".

And PS: you can't read. I said, " ... and thus cost me thousands and thousands of dollars out of pocket." I paid for my own medical care. Your statement is absurd.

except most of us who do the paying aren't rich. why they didn't just do single payer is beyond me. that ends the health care provider system. that also removes having all those have to make a profit, which also removes that expense.
good lord, who is going to pay for all this now? oh, wait..i know. the same ones who already pay for everything. it just makes that amount grow.

Republicans wouldn't allow it.

The same funding plan as was included in the law when it was passed two years ago, and has been occurring ever since.

Really, who is going to pay for it? I can assure you it won't be the insurance companies.

Since the word tax has been redefined this morning, I guess the Obama method of piling on to the deficit, then falsely claiming you did not add to it with nonsensical pie charts and ridiculous accounting methods, then leaving it for later generations to deal with can now be defined as a tax.

Zig, my sarcasm was aimed at how the board troll looks at it. Of course most of who will pay it are those that work their butts off and can't afford to pay for those that refuse to.

There, there. Your head is exploding.

Don't worry - that is no longer considered an uninsurable pre-existing condition thanks to Obamacare :tro:

My head is far from exploding. You are too stupid to understand why this decision is the actual nightmare it is. Everyone here has already learned that there is no explaining anything to you so I won't bother wasting my time.

Gloat you pig. We will all be back in November when your worst nightmare begins, a Mitt Romney presidency with at least one, if not both, houses Republican.

Naw. Your head is exploding :D

yeah, i know. everyone knows that something had to be done to fix the health care mess.
you'd think more would be unhappy that obama made a deal with pharma and the health insurers to produce this bloated abortion of a health 'fix'. but, hey, why worry? this only will cause current medicaid spendiing to explode-and many states are already hurting with their current budget. so, eventually taxes will have to be increased dramatically to pay for all these 'fixes'.

better to have taken a hit jobs-wise in the short run (bcbs, aetna, humana, etc would all have shut down) and have a proper fix in the long run. but no, let's just make a confusing patchwork of rules and regulations and subsidize a family of four with almost 70k in income, we'll worry about how to pay for it all later.
so, i'll keep paying monthly for health insurance, as i always have. i won't see any price decreases...but there will be a corresponding increase in taxes, because how else will increased medicaid and those subsidies be paid for? it would have been better to just have everyone pay a tax for health care, cradle to grave coverage, because then i wouldn't have hundreds per month going to united healthcare anymore. i'll still have that to pay, and new taxes coming as well.