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Coach Pants 05-31-2012 12:22 PM

It's probably the 3 strike rule. 3 fetuses and your uterus is out.

Soda is awful but this isn't about people's safety and health. It's about money.

Danzig 05-31-2012 12:25 PM

joey, i don't care what you call it.
but i do find it ironic that you and others are sooo anti-government intervention, until you're for it.

Danzig 05-31-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 865032)
It's probably the 3 strike rule. 3 fetuses and your uterus is out.

Soda is awful but this isn't about people's safety and health. It's about money.


isn't everything?

joeydb 05-31-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 865033)
joey, i don't care what you call it.
but i do find it ironic that you and others are sooo anti-government intervention, until you're for it.

Where did I say I was for government intervention?

I am against the government intervention that continues to keep the massacre of babies in utero legal.

Had the Supreme Court not acted in 1973, the deadlock in the case would have prevented the killing of that human being, and of course the erroneous precedent that one parent alone can order the execution of her would-be child would never have been established.

The fathers aren't off the hook either. It's wrong to set up that situation and then be nowhere to be found. Everybody should learn a little self control instead of acting mentally like children, who then don't want children.

Find a dictionary printed prior to 1973 and you may find a word : aborticide.

jms62 05-31-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 865037)
Where did I say I was for government intervention?

I am against the government intervention that continues to keep the massacre of babies in utero legal.
Had the Supreme Court not acted in 1973, the deadlock in the case would have prevented the killing of that human being, and of course the erroneous precedent that one parent alone can order the execution of her would-be child would never have been established.

The fathers aren't off the hook either. It's wrong to set up that situation and then be nowhere to be found. Everybody should learn a little self control instead of acting mentally like children, who then don't want children.

Find a dictionary printed prior to 1973 and you may find a word : aborticide.

So are you also against the government intervention that keeps someone from blowing your head off because you looked at them the wrong way? It's called Law Joey

Clip-Clop 05-31-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 865069)
So are you also against the government intervention that keeps someone from blowing your head off because you looked at them the wrong way? It's called Law Joey

That hasn't happened yet. The government only intervenes after the head has been blown off.

Danzig 05-31-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 865037)
Where did I say I was for government intervention?

I am against the government intervention that continues to keep the massacre of babies in utero legal.

Had the Supreme Court not acted in 1973, the deadlock in the case would have prevented the killing of that human being, and of course the erroneous precedent that one parent alone can order the execution of her would-be child would never have been established.

The fathers aren't off the hook either. It's wrong to set up that situation and then be nowhere to be found. Everybody should learn a little self control instead of acting mentally like children, who then don't want children.

Find a dictionary printed prior to 1973 and you may find a word : aborticide.

:rolleyes:

do you feel the government is correct in putting more rules and regulations in place for women who go to a clinic to receive legal care?

Honu 05-31-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 865037)
Where did I say I was for government intervention?

I am against the government intervention that continues to keep the massacre of babies in utero legal.

Had the Supreme Court not acted in 1973, the deadlock in the case would have prevented the killing of that human being, and of course the erroneous precedent that one parent alone can order the execution of her would-be child would never have been established.

The fathers aren't off the hook either. It's wrong to set up that situation and then be nowhere to be found. Everybody should learn a little self control instead of acting mentally like children, who then don't want children.

Find a dictionary printed prior to 1973 and you may find a word : aborticide.

Since men cant get pregnant, only cause it, they get no say IMO. I myself if I were inclined to want a penis inside me and got pregnant I couldnt kill the baby even if I didnt want it, but that is me and I am in no way shape or form someone to tell another what they should do with their body and whats inside it. This is the BIGGEST reason the morning after pill should be made available everywhere over the counter.

GPK 05-31-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 865079)
Since men cant get pregnant, only cause it, they get no say IMO. I myself if I were inclined to want a penis inside me and got pregnant I couldnt kill the baby even if I didnt want it, but that is me and I am in no way shape or form someone to tell another what they should do with their body and whats inside it. This is the BIGGEST reason the morning after pill should be made available everywhere over the counter.

Yeah, that will never happen...

Coach Pants 05-31-2012 03:01 PM

So now we're comparing a law against murder to a law on the size of god-damned sodas.

It's bad enough I have to get f.ucking robbed at Belmont half the f.ucking week. But now I've got to accept limits on beverages because if I don't I accept murder.

WTF?

Honu 05-31-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 865092)
So now we're comparing a law against murder to a law on the size of god-damned sodas.

It's bad enough I have to get f.ucking robbed at Belmont half the f.ucking week. But now I've got to accept limits on beverages because if I don't I accept murder.

WTF?

Its all about control, control over what goes in or out of a persons body.

Honu 05-31-2012 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 865086)
Yeah, that will never happen...


Just because I dig chicks doesnt mean I dont have little movies playing in my head about Brad Pitt or Mathew M. Its kinda like the fantasy that men have about being with 2 girls at the same time, not likely to happen but the movie sure is good. ;)

Coach Pants 05-31-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 865095)
Its all about control, control over what goes in or out of a persons body.


Long term conditioning. Enslavement. Slowly give us social justice on maybe 3-4 issues over a decade...because we can't focus on more than that. Then take away our freedoms that we aren't focused on.

Lunacy.

GenuineRisk 05-31-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 864921)
In typical liberal Democratic fashion, "we know what's best for you..."

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/05/...ver-16-ounces/

Of course, they overlook the obvious yet again. The guy who was going to buy a 24 oz drink will now simply just buy two 16 oz. drinks, either simultaneously or when he again grows thirsty. The actual consumption may increase, as will those horrible paper products that are destroying mother Earth... :rolleyes:

Err, Mr. Joey, sir? Please look up which party tickets Bloomie ran on in his three Mayoral campaigns. Because you clearly don't know much about Hizzoner.

joeydb 05-31-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 865072)
That hasn't happened yet. The government only intervenes after the head has been blown off.

jms knows that so I'm sure he's for the second amendment right to defend one's self.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Still waiting on the abortion limit that Riot alluded to...

Getting back to the thread - everybody who doesn't live in NY can still drink whatever volume of soda or coffee that they think they'd like to buy...

joeydb 05-31-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 865100)
Err, Mr. Joey, sir? Please look up which party tickets Bloomie ran on in his three Mayoral campaigns. Because you clearly don't know much about Hizzoner.

True - I know he was a Republican. But his liberal tilt makes it easy for me to forget. Another RINO.

GenuineRisk 05-31-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 864939)
OK - how many conservatives are telling you how much soda you are not allowed to have?

Ironically, if you're on welfare, the conservatives are paying for the soda and everything else...

Technically, the proposed law doesn't limit how much soda an individual can drink; it limits the sizes certain companies can sell. There's nothing to stop an individual from buying two 16-oz sodas if that's what he wants to do. Or five, or ten, or twenty.

So the restriction is on companies, not actual individuals. Corporations spend a lot of money researching how to get people to consume more; the massive increase in portion size is evidence of how successful they are. I imagine Bloomberg is figuring the psychology behind how we purchase works both ways.

I'm old enough I can remember when McDonalds didn't serve their fries in boxes.

joeydb 05-31-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 865106)
Technically, the proposed law doesn't limit how much soda an individual can drink; it limits the sizes certain companies can sell. There's nothing to stop an individual from buying two 16-oz sodas if that's what he wants to do. Or five, or ten, or twenty.

So the restriction is on companies, not actual individuals. Corporations spend a lot of money researching how to get people to consume more; the massive increase in portion size is evidence of how successful they are. I imagine Bloomberg is figuring the psychology behind how we purchase works both ways.

I'm old enough I can remember when McDonalds didn't serve their fries in boxes.

OK - good point - but equally technical is the fact that the law seeks to make it less convenient to consume the same amount.

Maybe next Bloomberg should outlaw the 16 oz pint of beer and the 12 oz bottle, preferring instead that going to the bar for a beer with the guys means ordering 12 one ounce shot glasses of beer...

GenuineRisk 05-31-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 865037)
Where did I say I was for government intervention?

I am against the government intervention that continues to keep the massacre of babies in utero legal.

Had the Supreme Court not acted in 1973, the deadlock in the case would have prevented the killing of that human being, and of course the erroneous precedent that one parent alone can order the execution of her would-be child would never have been established.

The fathers aren't off the hook either. It's wrong to set up that situation and then be nowhere to be found. Everybody should learn a little self control instead of acting mentally like children, who then don't want children.

Find a dictionary printed prior to 1973 and you may find a word : aborticide.

So what do you feel is an appropriate punishment for women who abort a pregnancy? Death? Life without parole? Twenty years? Ten? Let's get down to brass tacks, here. What do you see as appropriate punishment?

Danzig 05-31-2012 03:40 PM

i'd rather they just had companies put the actual dietary info of the size you're buying on the label.
who here knows that 20oz soda bottles are considered 2 1/2 servings in a container?
that cinnamon roll in the vending machine? two servings. so is the microwave bowl of chunky soup-yeah, cause i share that big ol' bowl of soup with someone...it's too much to eat by myself. :rolleyes:


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