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pointman 05-26-2012 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 863722)
Let me say something because this is how these things start....the Stewards said he couldn't wear the nasal strip. Not NYRA. One of the Stewards is a NYRA employee. The other two are not.

I don't have an opinion either way. I just thought maybe I could nip this one in the bud. NYRA did not ban the nasal strip.

Don't you know that NYRA is responsible for every wrong in NY racing?

Danzig 05-26-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 863875)
NY is the only state to ban nasal strips but they allow it for standardbreds. This needs to be cleaned up before the Belmont Stakes.




I dont see that happening before the belmont.

richard 05-26-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 863963)
I dont see that happening before the belmont.

Do you always go this far out on a limb with your predictions?

Danzig 05-26-2012 05:15 PM

No, not always.:rolleyes:

Linny 05-26-2012 10:07 PM

Nasal strips have been around for at least a decade and have not been make "legal" in NY for use on TB's. The decision is not NYRA's. As on other things NYRA is bound by the laws and regulations governing racing in the state. Those regulators have not seen fit to permit the strips and thus the NYRA cannot just allow their use.

I am still amazed at how many people who profess to follow racing in this state don't know the difference between the New York Racing Association (NYRA, which runs Belmont, Saratoga and Aqueduct) and the regulatory body, the New York State Racing and Wagering Board. I work for Capital OTB and cannot tell you how often I field questions from customers about NYRA (and other tracks) that clearly indicate that the person asking doesn't know that we (Cap OTB) are NOT producing the broadcast from the tracks. Blackthroatedwind, you can rest assured than several Cap OTB patrons were concerned about your absence on Preakness weekend.

blackthroatedwind 05-26-2012 10:22 PM

I am frequently amazed how many people seem to think I am not allowed any vacation days. Every single time I have been off in the last four years, people have asked if I was fired.

Indian Charlie 05-26-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 863949)
Let us know how the letter goes.

I can tell you right now. Nasal strips will be permitted just in time for IHA to win the triple crown. I feel it.

Indian Charlie 05-26-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 864023)
I am frequently amazed how many people seem to think I am not allowed any vacation days. Every single time I have been off in the last four years, people have asked if I was fired.

Really? You seem like such a cuddle bunny though.

Weird.

richard 05-26-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 864026)
I can tell you right now. Nasal strips will be permitted just in time for IHA to win the triple crown. I feel it.

What's the early Vegas line on the nasal strips for the Belmont Stakes? Every state in the Union allows nasal strips for thoroughbreds except NY. NY allows nasal strips for standardbreds.

Indian Charlie 05-26-2012 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 864030)
What's the early Vegas line on the nasal strips for the Belmont Stakes? Every state in the Union allows nasal strips for thoroughbreds except NY. NY allows nasal strips for standardbreds.

It's a lock, because of the standardbred argument you use.

Surely the politician your letter targets will understand this point and act immediately.

richard 05-26-2012 11:13 PM

If the pol had half the sense that you do sir, there would be free nasal strips for all on the Belmont S. card.

Coach Pants 05-26-2012 11:35 PM

And free Golden Missile money shot viewings for all.

Indian Charlie 05-26-2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 864035)
If the pol had half the sense that you do sir, there would be free nasal strips for all on the Belmont S. card.

It is a common misconception that politicians lack sense and intelligence.

The reality is as far from that as possible.

They are all self-serving asssholes that only care about themselves and their sponsors.

richard 05-27-2012 12:01 AM

I hope you are not suggesting that FLAIR, the manufacturer for nasal strips, needs to make a "campaign contribution" to get their product to the NY thoroughbred market.

Indian Charlie 05-27-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 864042)
I hope you are not suggesting that FLAIR, the manufacturer for nasal strips, needs to make a "campaign contribution" to get their product to the NY thoroughbred market.

I wasn't, but yeah, that would work fastest.

cakes44 05-27-2012 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 864037)
And free Golden Missile money shot viewings for all.

That joke will seriously NEVER get old. Gotta love it.

Danzig 05-27-2012 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 864045)
I wasn't, but yeah, that would work fastest.

it absolutely would. we all know what makes the politicians world go round.

alysheba4 05-27-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 864023)
I am frequently amazed how many people seem to think I am not allowed any vacation days. Every single time I have been off in the last four years, people have asked if I was fired.

.....sorry, i wish you didnt have any vacation days.

Danzig 05-27-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny (Post 864018)
Nasal strips have been around for at least a decade and have not been make "legal" in NY for use on TB's. The decision is not NYRA's. As on other things NYRA is bound by the laws and regulations governing racing in the state. Those regulators have not seen fit to permit the strips and thus the NYRA cannot just allow their use.

I am still amazed at how many people who profess to follow racing in this state don't know the difference between the New York Racing Association (NYRA, which runs Belmont, Saratoga and Aqueduct) and the regulatory body, the New York State Racing and Wagering Board. I work for Capital OTB and cannot tell you how often I field questions from customers about NYRA (and other tracks) that clearly indicate that the person asking doesn't know that we (Cap OTB) are NOT producing the broadcast from the tracks. Blackthroatedwind, you can rest assured than several Cap OTB patrons were concerned about your absence on Preakness weekend.


The strips have been banned at New York Racing Association tracks at the discretion of stewards under a one-sentence, catch-all equipment state regulation known as 4033.8 that states: Only equipment specifically approved by the stewards shall be worn or carried by a jockey or a horse in a race.

When the NYSRWB approved the strips in 1999 it was done so with the provision that they would be re-evaluated at the end of the year. The next month the NYRA’s then-president and chief executive officer, Terry Meyocks, announced the strips would be banned at NYRA tracks, according to Dr. Jim Chiapetta, a former practicing veterinarian and president of Flair LLC, which developed and produces the strips.


the above probably explains why folks are saying 'nyra'.

blackthroatedwind 05-27-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 864079)
The strips have been banned at New York Racing Association tracks at the discretion of stewards under a one-sentence, catch-all equipment state regulation known as 4033.8 that states: Only equipment specifically approved by the stewards shall be worn or carried by a jockey or a horse in a race.

When the NYSRWB approved the strips in 1999 it was done so with the provision that they would be re-evaluated at the end of the year. The next month the NYRA’s then-president and chief executive officer, Terry Meyocks, announced the strips would be banned at NYRA tracks, according to Dr. Jim Chiapetta, a former practicing veterinarian and president of Flair LLC, which developed and produces the strips.


the above probably explains why folks are saying 'nyra'.

It actually doesn't accurately explain why people are blaming NYRA but it does give a stilted view of how someone COULD be confused.


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