Tough for me to believe you'll get over 10-1 on Hansen or Creative Cause, but I'd love it

I think he would have won if he drew 5-10

The odds look right in the ball park.

They can't all be under 10-1, and I'd be shocked if Hansen was one of the ones who was.

I think he will be under 10-1. I really feel like he's going to take a ton of money from the once a year bettors who like him because he's a pretty horsey. Not to mention, the continous clips that NBC will be showing of him winning the BC on the same track.

I guess that could be a factor. . . Just seems like very few actual handicappers (myself include) like him.

Someone out of the shorter prices is going to get lost on the board this year. . . maybe Dullahan?

I've heard stories of really old people throwing vacuum salesmen out of their house because the product they were trying to sell shared a name with Herbert Hoover.

For 30-year-old people, Hansen is to music what Herbert Hoover is to presidents for 90-year-old geezers.

I'd prefer Bond over either one. They are pretty hot.

I'm not going to be an apologist for the music group Hanson, but it's been like...18 years since they've released that MMMbop song. Now in their late 20's, they're more like a cross between Cheap Trick and Crosby Stills and Nash, than the Backstreet Boys.

In addition to owning their own record label, they write, record and perform all their own music and still sell a sh*tload of CDs around the world. I realize it's not everyones cup of tea, but those guys are actually pretty talented.

Once NBC shows the video of Hansen playing in the sand it's over. 7-1 tops.

i had no idea they were still in the music business after mmmm bop dupadobop

you guys are killing me. All i'm saying is that if you went into a bar and saw them play, you wouldn't think they were a boy band.

DERBY DRAW (the most unriveting 30 minutes in TV) is streaming here.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T6GgYr_PwY4

These two (on the video stream) are pretty boring. Not their fault I guess, someone needs to pan the camera around the room while they talk.

Those 3 guys from the movie Slapshot sing too, who knew.

I love rock n roll. I'll have to check them out on youtube sometime.

Which one?

I always liked #17.

Why because races run exactly like they project on paper and jocks and trainers are too stupid to train for and deviate from historical strategy when faced with a scenario they couldnt possibly be successful at based upon the current conditions being presented? "very few actual handicappers (myself included)" geesh do you talk down to people much?