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herkhorse 03-10-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 844860)
They are apparently gonna show the Tampa Bay Derby live, which tells me that TVG had the option all along to show Tampa this meet but chose not to bother with it.

I doubt it.

PatCummings 03-10-2012 06:21 PM

Funny thing is, HRTV didn't show it live.

tector 03-11-2012 02:36 PM

Schrupp is an unbearable, mugging ass, back to his CRC days, when I first encountered him. I dearly wish somebody had a clip of his childish, idiotic rant on TVG in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, where he felt, for some reason, we needed to hear his moronic political beliefs. It would be priceless.

hockey2315 03-11-2012 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 844900)
Funny thing is, HRTV didn't show it live.

Isn't that because the Swale was going off at the exact same second?

tector 03-11-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 845075)
Isn't that because the Swale was going off at the exact same second?

Yes, the usual genius of Florida racetracks. And many others.

Alan07 03-11-2012 04:57 PM

Schrupp just said that UR will win Derby in 2:01.1. :rolleyes:

NTamm1215 03-20-2012 12:05 PM

Can someone ask Schrupp how Oaklawn's Rebel day handle was down 5.7% and attendance 8%? I guess the attendance was because of the amount of people who stayed home to watch him on TVG.

Alan07 03-20-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 847033)
Can someone ask Schrupp how Oaklawn's Rebel day handle was down 5.7% and attendance 8%? I guess the attendance was because of the amount of people who stayed home to watch him on TVG.

Schrupp wasn't even on this weekend.

NTamm1215 03-20-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 847036)
Schrupp wasn't even on this weekend.

It was a crack at Schrupp saying TVG bolstered Oaklawn's handle. If TVG was so helpful, how were they down so much on the 2nd biggest day of their meet?

Alan07 03-20-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 847052)
It was a crack at Schrupp saying TVG bolstered Oaklawn's handle, you dullard. If TVG was so helpful, how were they down so much on the 2nd biggest day of their meet?

I wasn't taking a shot at you. They (TVG) are touting the handle at OP up because its the only thing they have on that is worth something. Oaklawn lost 8 days last year due to weather and what's worse is that Santa Anita Saturday was sloppy and off turf. It would have been down even more if they were fast/firm.

Alan07 04-06-2012 01:03 PM

and with Keeneland and Woodbine opening today, Oaklawn has been bumped off the air. :rolleyes:

Danzig 04-19-2012 10:20 AM

The Hot Springs, Ark., track reported total attendance of 592,431 and a daily average of 10,579. In 2011, attendance averaged 11,649 from a total 570,821. Wagering for the meet totaled $155,532,790 for a daily average of $2,777,371, compared with total and average handle of $151,623,944 and $3,094,366, respectively, in 2011.



Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1sV2yqR3t



good news for oaklawn. average daily handle/attendance was down, but total handle/attendance was up. it pays not to miss days.

NTamm1215 04-19-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 853834)
The Hot Springs, Ark., track reported total attendance of 592,431 and a daily average of 10,579. In 2011, attendance averaged 11,649 from a total 570,821. Wagering for the meet totaled $155,532,790 for a daily average of $2,777,371, compared with total and average handle of $151,623,944 and $3,094,366, respectively, in 2011.



Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1sV2yqR3t



good news for oaklawn. average daily handle/attendance was down, but total handle/attendance was up. it pays not to miss days.

That's actually bad news. Considering the investment they made in having their races televised by TVG and the immaculate weather they had, being down in any category is bad.

Oaklawn is a very poorly run racetrack for the simulcast bettor. Limited menu of wagering options, late draw for entries, poor post time management. At least HANA loves them...

freddymo 04-19-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 853893)
That's actually bad news. Considering the investment they made in having their races televised by TVG and the immaculate weather they had, being down in any category is bad.

Oaklawn is a very poorly run racetrack for the simulcast bettor. Limited menu of wagering options, late draw for entries, poor post time management. At least HANA loves them...

Hana sisters know better

Danzig 04-19-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 853893)
That's actually bad news. Considering the investment they made in having their races televised by TVG and the immaculate weather they had, being down in any category is bad.

Oaklawn is a very poorly run racetrack for the simulcast bettor. Limited menu of wagering options, late draw for entries, poor post time management. At least HANA loves them...

i thought their avg daily's were down compared to last year because of lost days last year. the fact that overall attendance and handle were up is what i thought was good. obviously the daily's would be nice to be larger, but the fact that there were more people going and betting is a good thing, isn't it?

NTamm1215 04-19-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 853898)
i thought their avg daily's were down compared to last year because of lost days last year. the fact that overall attendance and handle were up is what i thought was good. obviously the daily's would be nice to be larger, but the fact that there were more people going and betting is a good thing, isn't it?

No, the difference between the purses they paid out and the additional handle was almost a dollar for dollar match. You have to be taking in many more times your purses in handle in order to be successful.

They spun it nicely by concentrating on the total number, which is not as important as the daily number. Basically, they ran 16% more days and received just over 2% more in handle.


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