Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 834068)

Also the broodmare sire of Uncle Mo

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 833990)

Arch (sire of Blame) is profitable all 4 years as a broodmare sire with debuters.


2011: 4-for-24 (17%) $2.26 ROI
2010: 6-for-25 (24%) $2.37 ROI (Uncle Mo was one of his winners)
2009: 3-for-21 (14%) $2.28 ROI
2008: 1-for-7 (14%) $2.71 ROI

Obviously small sample size. There will be a ton more Arch mares being bred to.

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 834068)

Also the broodmare sire of Uncle Mo

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 834077)

Nice catch!

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 834083)

No stats to back it up, but it appears to me that Woodman broodmares seem to produce good early (if not debut) runners - Brian or Doug, either of you have his stats?

Realize he passed a few years ago - but plenty of his mares are still out there

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 833989)

I'm kind of surprised at how horrible Glitterman is at it.

2011: 4-for-46 (9%) $0.75 ROI
2010: 3-for-52 (6%) $0.75 ROI
2009: 3-for-50 (6%) $0.65 ROI
2008: 2-for-46 (4%) $0.39 ROI
2007: 1-for-37 (3%) $0.14 ROI


Five years of single digit win percentages, and brutally low ROI's.

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 833961)

Kela:

2011: 36-8-2-3 (22% wins) 3.58 ROI

* the two 2nd place finishes at odds of 16/1 and 40/1.

2010: 44-6-1-5 (14% wins) 2.79 ROI
2009: 11-3-0-4 (27% wins) 11.58 ROI (<-- $100+ winner at Hollywood)

Career: 17-for-91

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 835481)

My favorite retired sire is GPK.

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 835481)

My favorite debut sire is GPK.

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 835485)

I thought he was a gelding...................

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 835487)

Nah...too old and shriveled up from lack of use, so they left me intact. Although, it may not be a bad idea. I don't want to risk being arrested for "assault with a tiny weapon"

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 835490)

FTFY

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 835452)

A Todd Pletcher trained first-time starter out of a Glitterman mare is a morning-line favorite tomorrow at Gulfstream.

They paid 90K for it at OBS June and it's debuting for 50K MCL.

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 835457)

He's got a first-time starter at GP in a cheap MCL race on Friday that might be a gigantic price in a bad race.

Kela also had a debuter run 3rd at 16/1 at Santa Anita a few days ago.

Originally Posted by Rare Bog (Post 836070)

One of my favorite sires is Straight Man

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 836105)

Sadly, you don't see many of them anymore.

He was 1-for 10 with first-time starters last year. The lone winner won a debut race in an MCL at Saratoga.

http://www1.drf.com/drfNCWeeklyHorse...10812&raceNo=9

He stands for $6,000 -- but I was able to get him for a stud fee of $0.

http://signaturestallions.com/images...umbsize=_thumb

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 840992)

14-1 debut winner out of a Dehere mare at FG