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Calzone Lord 02-10-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 837629)
I think he's the best 3yr old in the country right now. He's by the best sire and is trained by the best trainer....

Stick a fork in him.

RockHardTen1985 02-10-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 837744)
Stick a fork in him.


I speak the truth Douglas.

RolloTomasi 02-10-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny (Post 837686)
Not bred like a speedball or an early maturing type at all. He's been in what appear to be among the strongest of the races for his generation at his level. He won nicely on the stretchout and beat a colt that came back to win. I don't they paid $950k for a horse that might win the Pat O'Brien. He's got all the earmarks of a classic colt.

Gonna play Devil's advocate on this one.

Fed Biz has been close to hot paces in his last 2. He was the leader at the 3/4 point of call in both those races, where the fraction for both at a one mile distance was 1:10+. It's conceivable that Fed Biz would be the frontrunner in subsequent starts as a horse like Consulado (who was previously ear-marked for the 7f San Vicente before the allowance race came up) is unlikely to continue on to the 9f preps.

As far as pedigree, the Fed Biz, through the dam, descends from a family that includes champion Euro 2yo Minardi (won sprints), worldwide champion 2yo Johannesburg (all Euro wins sprinting; lone US win at one turn), Tale Of The Cat (a frontrunner, who's only stakes win came in a sprint), Preach (G1 2yo, cut back to sprints at 3), and Pulpit (a frontrunning A.P. Indy colt who ran 7f in 1:21+ in his debut). The dam herself was a frontrunner who's only stakes win (4 for 5 lifetime) came in a sprint.

Giant's Causeway was a Group 1 winner at 2, did most of his subsequent running at a flat mile, and the majority of his offspring shows early speed over a route of ground.

There's nothing but precocity and speed in this colt's immediate pedigree. And all that ignores the fact that his trainer prefers his runners to be on or near the pace to begin with.

Calzone Lord 02-10-2012 05:08 PM

I think it's a classic speed-route pedigree.

The sire was a close 2nd to Tiznow in the Breeders Cup Classic. The dam sire won the Breeders Cup Classic wire-to-wire.

The dam won her only route start over a next-out stakes winner -- and she is a half sister to Tale of the Cat who was 2nd to Awesome Again in the Whitney and was beaten less than 3 lengths as just a 3rd time starter in a Haskell field loaded with five excellent horses. Those being his only two career tries at 9f's or beyond.

Merlinsky 02-10-2012 08:32 PM

Not particularly in love with the name. It reminds me of that made up game on Star Trek: the Original Series, Fizzbin. Steve Haskin and Lenny gave Jack Wolf grief over Algorithms, but names like Fed Biz and I'll Have Another aren't my idea of what you want to hear after "Kentucky Derby winner _____" or "Triple Crown winner ____." How names sound in the stretch ought to matter. It might be good to think about how it would look in the pedigree if your horse makes it as a stallion (broodmares seem to go all over the place in terms of name wackiness and have for centuries so no point grumbling there). Hoof Hearted gets a pass. That's just too funny to resist.

I guess after they win a race or races like that, you gotta just embrace it and God knows there've been some stupid KD winning names, but why you pay nearly a million dollars and name a horse this, I dunno. Watch him win the TC just to be all "so there" about it. Names like Alpha, Algorithms, Liaison, etc. are more in line with what you'd wanna see on a wall or in the press. They don't all have to be one word, but something not ridiculous or silly for a horse you invest in with money and TC hopes. I personally think Algorithm would've been better. Naming a singular horse something plural just sounds weird.

Calzone Lord 02-10-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 837792)
Not particularly in love with the name. It reminds me of that made up game on Star Trek: the Original Series, Fizzbin.

The dam of Fed Biz is named Spunoutacontrol.

Merlinsky 02-11-2012 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 837794)
The dam of Fed Biz is named Spunoutacontrol.

Yeah, I mean I get the idea of it. I just think it sounds "meh" as far as a stand alone thing. I guess it reads okay on the page. It's the musicality of the name that's not my favorite. It's not a name I think sounds great coming out of a track announcer for instance. Too staccato and feels truncated. It's an abbreviation so I'm sure that's why.


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