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geeker2 12-16-2011 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 825654)
Yeah, but what sane person would ever vote for another Bush?...oops, forgot about Faux viewers...:D
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/cat...daily-ratings/


FNC :tro:

bigrun 12-16-2011 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 825658)

Yeah, that's what i'm talkin bout....those koolaide drinkers....:tro:

Cannon Shell 12-16-2011 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825620)
OWS type activists and the Dem base are already focused on downticket races and taking back the House (and expanding Senate) in a 1964 type sweep.
Hold on now....I thought OWS was non-partisan????

Based on your comment they are not only not non-partisan but arent particularly lucid either.

hi_im_god 12-16-2011 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825638)
What's the Senate? (says 90% above ... )
it's 75%. there's a variety of contracts listed and the one for senate republicans 51 or more was selling at 90% but there was no volume. the higher volume contract for any republican majority was at 75%.

cook report has 8 democratic seats rated a toss up while only 2 republican seats (including brown's) fall in that category. all the other seats are rated "lean to" through "solidly" for the incumbent party.

Cannon Shell 12-16-2011 03:28 PM
The election for President is going to be won or lost on who runs the more effective attack ads. Obama cant run on his record because it is not only dismal he has pissed off the far lefties which made getting him elected a huge priority in 2008 because they mistakenly thought he was one of them (probably wont see that swell of grassroots support). The GOP nominee is going to face the fact that they probably dont have much of a record and will need to stay right to keep the religious nuts happy (especially Romney who will be looked upon warily by the South) in case plain hatred for Obama is not enough to make them actually get out and vote.

I predict that we see new lows in ad's on both sides as both Obama and the GOP nominee wont do anything but appeal to the base and try to trick indy's, not by swaying them FOR them but against the other guy.

Obama is lucky that all the sane and reasonable GOP potentials are keeping a low profile and not running because he really has very little going for him at this point. The fact that he is even with the bunch of misfits says all you need to know about what people think of his Presidency.

I do like the lower volume commercial thing though

Riot 12-16-2011 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825695)
Hold on now....I thought OWS was non-partisan????

Based on your comment they are not only not non-partisan but arent particularly lucid either.
Sigh ....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot
OWS type activists and the Dem base are already focused on downticket races and taking back the House (and expanding Senate) in a 1964 type sweep.
Yes. OWS type activists are focused on downticket races, getting the best candidate that meets Occupy values in. Not on getting Obama re-elected. Yes, Occupy is non-partisan, looking closely at individual candidates. There are plenty of Dems that will be primaried, or not supported, due to their views. Some Dems (like Warren) will be strongly supported. No Republicans will be. Plenty of support for Ron Paul in Occupy.

Yes. The Dem base are already focused on downticket races and taking back the House (and expanding Senate) in a 1964 type Democratic sweep.

Riot 12-16-2011 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 825698)
it's 75%. there's a variety of contracts listed and the one for senate republicans 51 or more was selling at 90% but there was no volume. the higher volume contract for any republican majority was at 75%.

cook report has 8 democratic seats rated a toss up while only 2 republican seats (including brown's) fall in that category. all the other seats are rated "lean to" through "solidly" for the incumbent party.
Thanks. If things continue to happen like the Scott Walker recall, Kasich continues to fall, Michigan continues to overturn municiple elections and appoint Governor-handpicked Czars to run towns, Scott in Florida continues disaster, the Arizona Republican party, and Nikki Haley is found to be obstructing Obamacares law, things will be very fluid.

At this early stage, all the Dems have to do is shut up and stay out of the limelight. The GOP is self-destructing in front of our eyes.

Cannon Shell 12-16-2011 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825703)
Sigh ....



Yes. OWS type activists are focused on downticket races, getting the best candidate that meets Occupy values in. Not on getting Obama re-elected. Yes, Occupy is non-partisan, looking closely at individual candidates. There are plenty of Dems that will be primaried, or not supported, due to their views. Some Dems (like Warren) will be supported. No Republicans will be. Plenty of support for Ron Paul in Occupy.

Yes. The Dem base are already focused on downticket races and taking back the House (and expanding Senate) in a 1964 type Democratic sweep.
uh what?

hi_im_god 12-16-2011 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825699)
The election for President is going to be won or lost on who runs the more effective attack ads. Obama cant run on his record because it is not only dismal he has pissed off the far lefties which made getting him elected a huge priority in 2008 because they mistakenly thought he was one of them (probably wont see that swell of grassroots support). The GOP nominee is going to face the fact that they probably dont have much of a record and will need to stay right to keep the religious nuts happy (especially Romney who will be looked upon warily by the South) in case plain hatred for Obama is not enough to make them actually get out and vote.

I predict that we see new lows in ad's on both sides as both Obama and the GOP nominee wont do anything but appeal to the base and try to trick indy's, not by swaying them FOR them but against the other guy.

Obama is lucky that all the sane and reasonable GOP potentials are keeping a low profile and not running because he really has very little going for him at this point. The fact that he is even with the bunch of misfits says all you need to know about what people think of his Presidency.

I do like the lower volume commercial thing though
i think the fact that obama will be running a seriously negative campaign is a given. it'll be a far cry from the high tone of the 2008 "hope and change" campaign. they'll be all out to paint romney as an out of touch plutocrat who shipped jobs overseas. obama won't get re-elected if he doesn't make the choice between him and something worse.

they're already running ad's in swing states trying to define romney. i'm just glad i live where the election result is a given. neither campaign will waste a whole lot of ad $ is california. the new volume rules don't go into effect until next december and it's going to be a loud campaign.

Riot 12-16-2011 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825705)
uh what?
Uh ... it's not based upon party affiliation, but on what the candidate stands for, and what their actual record is regarding lobbying money, etc.

Like this part you didn't highlight: There are plenty of Dems that will be primaried, or not supported, due to their views.

I know that for folks like you, that view the political parties like sports teams, where the opponent can never, ever, EVER be supported, no matter what, it's hard to understand voting for candidates NOT based upon political party, but upon their actions and record.

pointman 12-16-2011 03:55 PM
I hope that both Barbara Streisand and Alec Baldwin promise to move out of the US again this time if a Republican president gets elected and actually stick to their worthless word when it happens.

lord007 12-16-2011 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 825658)
:tro:

Riot 12-16-2011 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 825660)
Yeah, that's what i'm talkin bout....those koolaide drinkers....:tro:
Fox News viewers are less informed than people who don't watch any news, according to a new poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1106305.html

Fox News chyrons and graphs have been a joke for ages. One thing they nearly always do, is when an elected Republican is caught in a nasty story (gay sex, etc.) they use a "D" instead of an "R" for his party affiliation.

What Fox did yesterday: can you see the ... problem?


And what Fox did reporting unemployment numbers last week. See the massive inaccuracy graph problem here?

bigrun 12-16-2011 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825718)
Fox News viewers are less informed than people who don't watch any news, according to a new poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1106305.html

Fox News chyrons and graphs have been a joke for ages. One thing they nearly always do, is when an elected Republican is caught in a nasty story (gay sex, etc.) they use a "D" instead of an "R" for his party affiliation.

What Fox did yesterday: can you see the ... problem?


And what Fox did reporting unemployment numbers last week. See the massive inaccuracy graph problem here?

Saw that 2012 GOP Iowa mug shot on Stewart last nite....hiliarious...
He did a number on Newt using clips of several prominent repukes ripping him...funny bit..and true

Riot 12-16-2011 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 825723)
Saw that 2012 GOP Iowa mug shot on Stewart last nite....hiliarious...
He did a number on Newt using clips of several prominent repukes ripping him...funny bit..and true
Jon Stewart viewers are better informed about politics and world issues than Fox News viewers.

And in another story, National Geographic Wild Channel has accepted Stephen Colbert's request to host the Classy Republican Debate in January. Eat your heart out, failure Donald Trump.

bigrun 12-16-2011 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825725)
Jon Stewart viewers are better informed about politics and world issues than Fox News viewers.

And in another story, National Geographic Wild Channel has accepted Stephen Colbert's request to host the Classy Republican Debate in January. Eat your heart out, failure Donald Trump.

Saw that on Colbert show last nite...funny...

Riot 12-16-2011 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 825730)
Saw that on Colbert show last nite...funny...
OMG, the funniest thing was night before on Jon Stewart, the Barbara Walters saying "What?!!" to Herman Cain wanting to be Defense Dept Cabinet position :p

bigrun 12-16-2011 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825732)
OMG, the funniest thing was night before on Jon Stewart, the Barbara Walters saying "What?!!" to Herman Cain wanting to be Defense Dept Cabinet position :p

Lol, yeah he milked that one...funny stuff....
Saw that some where else, and she actually said, WHAT!...'Not the Treasury?'...

Rileyoriley 12-16-2011 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 825698)
it's 75%. there's a variety of contracts listed and the one for senate republicans 51 or more was selling at 90% but there was no volume. the higher volume contract for any republican majority was at 75%.

cook report has 8 democratic seats rated a toss up while only 2 republican seats (including brown's) fall in that category. all the other seats are rated "lean to" through "solidly" for the incumbent party.
Don't be too sure about Mass.. Brown has a very good approval rating here. People like him because he does not vote strictly along party lines. He is extremely popular among independents who make up the majority of voters here.

Danzig 12-16-2011 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825699)
The election for President is going to be won or lost on who runs the more effective attack ads. Obama cant run on his record because it is not only dismal he has pissed off the far lefties which made getting him elected a huge priority in 2008 because they mistakenly thought he was one of them (probably wont see that swell of grassroots support). The GOP nominee is going to face the fact that they probably dont have much of a record and will need to stay right to keep the religious nuts happy (especially Romney who will be looked upon warily by the South) in case plain hatred for Obama is not enough to make them actually get out and vote.

I predict that we see new lows in ad's on both sides as both Obama and the GOP nominee wont do anything but appeal to the base and try to trick indy's, not by swaying them FOR them but against the other guy.

Obama is lucky that all the sane and reasonable GOP potentials are keeping a low profile and not running because he really has very little going for him at this point. The fact that he is even with the bunch of misfits says all you need to know about what people think of his Presidency.

I do like the lower volume commercial thing though

the lefties might be pissed, but they're still going to vote for obama...or not vote. they won't vote for the opposition. just like the right-it's not like they're going to vote for obama, no matter how unpalatable romney might be. it's the indies, the middle who will decide, just like always. obama said himself that if he didn't fix things, he'd be a one termer. of course he'll run on a four years isn't enough to fix things type campaign, which is correct. but he dug himself that hole, now he'll have to get out of it.


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