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Rudeboyelvis 02-03-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 836107)
He will not be overlooked next out, unless there are a couple beasts in against him. If he runs against the same type group, he will be one of the favorites.

It's not like he has any speed. The bump knocked him back to last where he was probably going to end up anyway. It's a sucker trouble line when a horse that has no speed gets bothered at the start. He made the same closing move on Dec 10 and the public jumped on him the next out where he couldn't hit the board against arguably a slightly better group that the previous race. The competition is only going to get tougher as some of the late bloomers hit the track, then soon enough, he'll have to beat older horses too.

Speaking in Beyer terms as that seems to be the most common way to compare. He got a 50 for his efforts yesterday so in his three tries at Tampa, he is going backwards from a 59 to a 54 to a troubled 50. You aren't winning a straight 3yr old MSW at Tampa running in the 50's. Closing kick or not.

Unless he gets some class relief, he is not getting a dime of my money.

Trakus has him moving the 2nd best (to the eventual winner) @ the 7/8th and tiring in the last 1/8th covering 16 more ft than the winner - anyone's guess what that took out of him...Horvat Clan covered 21 more ft and was beaten a length, so that would be another "bad trip type" bet back, though probably no price on him...It will be interesting to see both of them run back - I'll be using both :p

Also worth noting - Chief Redneck, 3rd beaten 1 1/4 lengths - covered 11 less ft than the winner

There is my toss next time he runs

Dahoss 02-03-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 836117)
Trakus has him moving the 2nd best (to the eventual winner) @ the 7/8th and tiring in the last 1/8th covering 16 more ft than the winner - anyone's guess what that took out of him...Horvat Clan covered 21 more ft and was beaten a length, so that would be another "bad trip type" bet back, though probably no price on him...It will be interesting to see both of them run back - I'll be using both :p

Also worth noting - Chief Redneck, 3rd beaten 1 1/4 lengths - covered 11 less ft than the winner

There is my toss next time he runs

I actually like Chief Redneck going forward. Being hounded by a 60 something to 1 horse a few times, while making his first start going two turns, I thought he ran well. He didn't pack it in either, he fought a bit.

I even think Score One might be worth watching next time because he was the horse that bumped with NBA Money. At the very least you know Score One is going to be a price next time.

Bigsmc 02-05-2012 12:51 PM

After his afternoon swim with Leandro Goncalves on friday :eek:, Exacta Bob reports that Goncalves is still pissed at Mike Allen for running him into the rail.

golfer 02-05-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 836691)
After his afternoon swim with Leandro Goncalves on friday :eek:, Exacta Bob reports that Goncalves is still pissed at Mike Allen for running him into the rail.

That may be just a little Creepy

GPK 02-05-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer (Post 836730)
That may be just a little Creepy

May?

Bigsmc 02-06-2012 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 836828)
May?

It's very creepy. That's why I posted it. The thought of Exacta Bob and Goncalves chatting about the days races and future races in the shallow end of the pool is one of the funniest things ever.

For the record, Goncalves showed why he is a jockey and not a trainer by telling Exacta Bob that he didn't know why Ness was bringing Wiki back so quickly on Saturday. I guess he knows why now.

GPK 02-06-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 836896)
It's very creepy. That's why I posted it. The thought of Exacta Bob and Goncalves chatting about the days races and future races in the shallow end of the pool is one of the funniest things ever.

For the record, Goncalves showed why he is a jockey and not a trainer by telling Exacta Bob that he didn't know why Ness was bringing Wiki back so quickly on Saturday. I guess he knows why now.

Never...ever...





































I mean NEVER....










































doubt the Ness juice.

Bigsmc 02-07-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 837061)
Never...ever...

I mean NEVER....

doubt the Ness juice.

You and I know that, I think Goncalves does now, after Saturday.

With 1 to 7 day comebackers over the last 5 years, Ness has 44% winners, 80% ITM with a $2.17 ROI from a 44 start sample.

Bigsmc 02-22-2012 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 836117)
Also worth noting - Chief Redneck, 3rd beaten 1 1/4 lengths - covered 11 less ft than the winner

There is my toss next time he runs

Today's your day to toss.

Bigsmc 03-31-2012 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 836090)
That said, I hope Ian Wilkes keeps NBA Money at the MSW level. He has the look of a longtime maiden, unless he gets some class relief soon. He is running just well enough to take money, which are the types I love to play against.

:wf:wf

He found the proper field. Firsters second and third behind him.

GPK 03-31-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 849847)
:wf:wf

He found the proper field. Firsters second and third behind him.

:(


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