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Duvalier 12-06-2011 02:25 PM

"Calling races should be an exercise in journalism where the “who, what, where and when” is reported and not embellished.

Just call the race accurately, that’s all that is being asked."


It's funny how Osterman doesn't want the race call embellished...you know just give him the who, what, where and when, but lauds Wrona for being clever and laugh out loud funny during his calls. So which is it?

Personally I think Wrona is one of the best out there along with Tom Durkin, Vic, Peter Berry, Larry Lederman, Dave Rodman and Dan Loiselle.

Indian Charlie 12-06-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 822298)
The article is so bad and poorly written that it makes me think this Osterman dude was being sarcastic..

duh.

Rudeboyelvis 12-06-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 822288)
:tro:
I like the way Vic S. Calls races, he enjoys what he does and it shows. He's not in charge of the national debt, he's just calling a horse race.

All publicity is good publicity, right Vic? ;) There is no reaction to anything Wrona does, here or anywhere else.

The blogger obviously has an axe to grind with Stauffer or an agenda for promoting Wrona.

:tro:

I don't watch enough GG to even formulate an opinion about Wrona, other than I'm just about completely over the whole "Aussie-accent thing" in American race calling.

Danzig 12-06-2011 02:54 PM

speaking of callers/accents, trevor denman drives me batsh!t insane. and awaaay they go. i'd like to punch him in the back of the throat.

______ would have to sprout wings...ugh

he's better than battaglia tho!

OldDog 12-06-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 822298)
The article is so bad and poorly written that it makes me think this Osterman dude was being sarcastic..

:D

deja vu all over again!

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 822318)
speaking of callers/accents, trevor denman drives me batsh!t insane. and awaaay they go. i'd like to punch him in the back of the throat.

Really? I enjoy his racecalls. But then, I don't have an issue with any racecallers. Any that I've heard do a better job at it than I could. Yes, even Battaglia.

Antitrust32 12-06-2011 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 822306)
duh.

:o

Riot 12-06-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 822273)
well said miss cat

Agreed, well said :tro:

Dahoss 12-06-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 822268)

FInally Cardus... you ask what kind of person does this? Posts this?

I don't know... to me someone who can laugh at themselves.

He knew the vultures would circle immediately...

I doubt he posted it because he is a closet masochist.

I happen to agree that the author's criticism of Vic saying "darn it" is pretty ridiculous. However, a lot of his other criticisms are things people have mentioned for years.

As for why Vic posted it (here, and every other horse racing message board around), who knows. But it certainly seems like Vic likes the attention this gets him. He's not alone there, we all like attention, but I don't think for one second he was trying to laugh at himself. He posted it because he knew it would draw out his supporters to tell him how great he is.

Mission accomplished.
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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 822268)

Vic is not my favorite race caller but this piece? This was a little over the top mean.

You're probably right. But there are two sides to every story. Who knows what, if any history there is between these guys or what else happened.

Duvalier 12-06-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 822340)
Amen.

And to the psychophants who think otherwise, I'd say that they are suckers.

It's worse on other sites, though.

Did you make sure to Copy and paste: on those other sites too?

TheSpyder 12-06-2011 06:40 PM

Ahhhhh right, that's the ticket:

Psychophants: One who attempts to garner favour by flattering influential people, but does so to a psychotic, often violent degree

So Vic is influential after all and we're all getting crazy over here, even violent.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 822340)
Amen.

And to the psychophants who think otherwise, I'd say that they are suckers.

It's worse on other sites, though.


Danzig 12-06-2011 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 822340)
Amen.

And to the psychophants who think otherwise, I'd say that they are suckers.

It's worse on other sites, though.


um....what?

dagolfer33 12-06-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 822394)
um....what?

....waiting for the rest of the anti-Stauffer cavalry, 10 Pt. And Stonegossard, to get the bat-signal. Let's watch!!!! Should get interesting.

Dahoss 12-06-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 822417)
....waiting for the rest of the anti-Stauffer cavalry, 10 Pt. And Stonegossard, to get the bat-signal. Let's watch!!!! Should get interesting.

You should see the secret handshake we have at the cavalry. It's pretty sweet.

RockHardTen1985 12-06-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 822333)
I happen to agree that the author's criticism of Vic saying "darn it" is pretty ridiculous. However, a lot of his other criticisms are things people have mentioned for years.

As for why Vic posted it (here, and every other horse racing message board around), who knows. But it certainly seems like Vic likes the attention this gets him. He's not alone there, we all like attention, but I don't think for one second he was trying to laugh at himself. He posted it because he knew it would draw out his supporters to tell him how great he is.

Mission accomplished.


You're probably right. But there are two sides to every story. Who knows what, if any history there is between these guys or what else happened.

Im not trying to start anything with you here, just want to get that out first. I think your being a bit harsh though. She did not really jump to his defense. She was pretty clear saying hes not my favorite but this is over the top. I actually agree 100%. Im not a huge fan of his, but I don't dislike him for any of his calls. The call in question I don't think was that bad either. He sounds sincere to me. I know darn it is not really the best thing he could have said, but he said it. I don't think its a big deal at all. It feels to me like there is an agenda, something else is going on between the writer and Vic, but who knows. I mean to write that type of an article because of that call seems way over the top to me. As for the other race caller mentioned in the article, from listening to both of them I think Vic is better. I also think Vic is better then Trevor D. He looks like he just jumped in at the quarter pole is getting so played out, I think most people would admit that.

Dahoss 12-06-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 822427)
Im not trying to start anything with you here, just want to get that out first. I think your being a bit harsh though. She did not really jump to his defense. She was pretty clear saying hes not my favorite but this is over the top. I actually agree 100%. Im not a huge fan of his, but I don't dislike him for any of his calls. The call in question I don't think was that bad either. He sounds sincere to me. I know darn it is not really the best thing he could have said, but he said it. I don't think its a big deal at all. It feels to me like there is an agenda, something else is going on between the writer and Vic, but who knows. I mean to write that type of an article because of that call seems way over the top to me. As for the other race caller mentioned in the article, from listening to both of them I think Vic is better. I also think Vic is better then Trevor D. He looks like he just jumped in at the quarter pole is getting so played out, I think most people would admit that.

Who am I being harsh to?

Sightseek 12-06-2011 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 822333)
I happen to agree that the author's criticism of Vic saying "darn it" is pretty ridiculous. However, a lot of his other criticisms are things people have mentioned for years.

As for why Vic posted it (here, and every other horse racing message board around), who knows. But it certainly seems like Vic likes the attention this gets him. He's not alone there, we all like attention, but I don't think for one second he was trying to laugh at himself. He posted it because he knew it would draw out his supporters to tell him how great he is.

Mission accomplished.


You're probably right. But there are two sides to every story. Who knows what, if any history there is between these guys or what else happened.

Well said Mr. Hossy.

dagolfer33 12-06-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 822422)
You should see the secret handshake we have at the cavalry. It's pretty sweet.

Hoss, you post on all kinds of things here. SOME people only come out of the woodworks when Vic posts, which leads me to believe he is purposefully yanking their chain. I'm not trying to categorize you. My overall feeling is, not one of these SOB's has ever jumped out of the announcers booth and won/cost me a race......yet.


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