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Danzig 10-24-2011 05:47 AM

i couldn't believe the score when i woke up this morning. obviously far more wrong with the team than just manning. he doesn't play on defense-or is the team just gutted at this point??

herkhorse 10-24-2011 06:13 AM

Colts are on the suck for Luck plan

jms62 10-24-2011 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 812802)
i couldn't believe the score when i woke up this morning. obviously far more wrong with the team than just manning. he doesn't play on defense-or is the team just gutless at this point??

ftfy

MaTH716 10-24-2011 08:28 AM

The interesting thing is, what do the Colts do if they end up with the pick?

3kings 10-24-2011 08:39 AM

Take Luck and let him sit a couple of years like Rodgers. Or trade it. If Palmer is worth a 1and 2, Luck should be worth more than that.

MaTH716 10-24-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 812811)
Take Luck and let him sit a couple of years like Rodgers. Or trade it. If Palmer is worth a 1and 2, Luck should be worth more than that.

I would trade the pick. Obviously they have other problems right now that need to be addressed. Manning will solve the QB problem, get some picks and sure up the rest of the team. As opposed to taking Luck and letting him sit on the bench, getting #1 pick money for God knows how many years.

Now that I think about it, maybe they have to sit down with Peyton and see what his long term plans are, before they put everything in motion.

Bigsmc 10-24-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 812811)
Take Luck and let him sit a couple of years like Rodgers.

Do exactly that. Ensures the future QB status of your franchise for the next 10 years.

jms62 10-24-2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 812812)
I would trade the pick. Obviously they have other problems right now that need to be addressed. Manning will solve the QB problem, get some picks and sure up the rest of the team. As opposed to taking Luck and letting him sit on the bench, getting #1 pick money for God knows how many years.

Now that I think about it, maybe they have to sit down with Peyton and see what his long term plans are, before they put everything in motion.

Seriously how many years does Manning have at the level he is at even if he is still at that level. A neck injury is serious ****. If he has any reoccurence I would not be suprised to see him shut it down for good.

MaTH716 10-24-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 812824)
Seriously how many years does Manning have at the level he is at even if he is still at that level. A neck injury is serious ****. If he has any reoccurence I would not be suprised to see him shut it down for good.

The thing about Manning is, the protection around him is so good that he never seems to get hit. So neck issue aside, I could see him playing at a high level for another 5 years.

Now this season, do they just suck? Or is it a product of not having Manning? That's the question management is going to have to figure out so they know which direction to go in.

somerfrost 10-24-2011 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 812802)
i couldn't believe the score when i woke up this morning. obviously far more wrong with the team than just manning. he doesn't play on defense-or is the team just gutted at this point??

Losing quickly becomes the expectation and the Colts expect to lose. Manning was their offense and more than that he was their absolute leader, the most valuable player to his team in the NFL by far. His presence hid a lot of flaws that are now exposed..sorta like the Dolphins with Marino.

RockHardTen1985 10-24-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 812811)
Take Luck and let him sit a couple of years like Rodgers. Or trade it. If Palmer is worth a 1and 2, Luck should be worth more than that.

I think if its the Colts or Rams you have to trade the pick.

Coach Pants 10-24-2011 01:38 PM

The Dolphins are a mortal lock for Luck. Peyton is fine. That team has been horrible for two years.

ateamstupid 10-24-2011 01:46 PM

Nien Nunb is toast.

Bigsmc 10-24-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 812831)
I think if its the Colts or Rams you have to trade the pick.

I can see the Rams trading, but why the Colts? Because you think Manning is the future of the Colts? He will be 36 years old when he plays again. How many more years do you think he has left to play at the level he is accustomed to? How many shots do you think he is willing to take before he just walks away?

If the Colts have the pick, they need to take Luck.

RockHardTen1985 10-24-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 812851)
I can see the Rams trading, but why the Colts? Because you think Manning is the future of the Colts? He will be 36 years old when he plays again. How many more years do you think he has left to play at the level he is accustomed to? How many shots do you think he is willing to take before he just walks away?

If the Colts have the pick, they need to take Luck.

I think it will be a huge slap in the face to a guy who has said he wants to play into his 40's. He will take it as them not wanting to improve the team right now. On ESPN just today they said they will consult with Peyton about if they should resign Reggie Wayne or not. If thats the case, Peyton must be in the near future plans, right? BTW if It was me I would take Luck, Im just going on what I think those teams will do.

Rudeboyelvis 10-24-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 812855)
I think it will be a huge slap in the face to a guy who has said he wants to play into his 40's. He will take it as them not wanting to improve the team right now. On ESPN just today they said they will consult with Peyton about if they should resign Reggie Wayne or not. If thats the case, Peyton must be in the near future plans, right? BTW if It was me I would take Luck, Im just going on what I think those teams will do.

Sorry Joe, no way that convo took place. Unless their plan is to throw the season and take Luck with the #1 because they plan on promoting Manning to GM net year.

Personally I think he was done last year, their running game has been atrocious since Addai fell off, and the rest of the team is old. Say what you will, but I seriously doubt the score would have been much different with Manning behind center.

RockHardTen1985 10-24-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 812862)
Sorry Joe, no way that convo took place. Unless their plan is to throw the season and take Luck with the #1 because they plan on promoting Manning to GM net year.

Personally I think he was done last year, their running game has been atrocious since Addai fell off, and the rest of the team is old. Say what you will, but I seriously doubt the score would have been much different with Manning behind center.

Im not saying it did, but it was said this morning on First Take.

RockHardTen1985 10-24-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 812862)
Sorry Joe, no way that convo took place. Unless their plan is to throw the season and take Luck with the #1 because they plan on promoting Manning to GM net year.

Personally I think he was done last year, their running game has been atrocious since Addai fell off, and the rest of the team is old. Say what you will, but I seriously doubt the score would have been much different with Manning behind center.

I have never been a fan of Peyton. I think I left him out of a few different top 5's on this website. Im just saying what I think will happen. That team as a unit is bad. Like you said even with Peyton they get blown out. Thats what makes me feel they would trade the pick and try to get better everywhere else and hope Peyton has 4-5 years left.

3kings 10-24-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 812864)
Im not saying it did, but it was said this morning on First Take.

Today was the first time I had ever seen that show.
Bayless knows nothing, and he knows far more than the girl who was on the left this morning.

RockHardTen1985 10-24-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 812868)
Today was the first time I had ever seen that show.
Bayless knows nothing, and he knows far more than the girl who was on the left this morning.

I like Skip. Reminds me a lot of me. Strong opinion and right most of the time.


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