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Originally Posted by Uncle Mo (Post 770570)

I hope he doesn't get stuck on a horse like JP's Gusto.

or one like Super Saver

Just throw him on Stay Thirsty

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...cky-derby.aspx

Nakatani just took Nehro over Comma to the Top. They said they're working on a replacement. Is that code for "trying to get Calvin's phone number"? There's plenty of time for the annual musical jockeys situation to resolve itself and give him a mount. Todd paid him that backhanded compliment last time about being several lengths better at Churchill. I'm sure some connections are thinking about that.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Mo (Post 770570)

I hope he doesn't get stuck on a horse like JP's Gusto.

At this point he may wind up training JP's Gusto

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 770711)

At this point he may wind up training JP's Gusto

OMG... :tro:

Will be laughing all morning.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 770711)

At this point he may wind up training JP's Gusto

His owner and the owner of Santiva plan on going through every trainer and jockey in racing before the end of their careers.

Hopefully Hushion will take over the training before the Derby because after the Derby there probably won't be much left of this horse.

is castro staying on tobys corner?

has he ever been in the derby before?

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 770520)

I'm as big a critic of Borel as there is, but in fairness to him, recall that he is still working his way back from very severe injuries in that Jackpot incident. It takes jocks a minimum of 6 months to get back into shape and groove after a lay-up like he had.

On a couple of other fronts brought up here, he of course has no business being placed on the HOF ballot considering a guy like Rich Migliore hasn't been on it and has maybe 4 times the graded stake wins that Borel has. And I'm curious why not one person writing about the HOF topic has brought up the well-known reputation Borel has as a machine rider? Or is that going to be conveniently avoided since he's won 3 Derbys?

Regarding the Street Sense Derby and any Derby for that matter, the inside can be an ideal place to be as horses 'get out' and off the rail as they tire. It wasn't magical that the path seemed to clear for Street Sense as he rallied. It's predictable. And I wouldn't pay respects to Curlin in acknowledging Street Sense that day. I'd pay them to Hard Spun who ran an unbelievable race.

I love Mig (who doesn't?) because he's a superb human being and a great jockey, but I think you're off here on your estimations. By my count Rich has 96 graded stakes wins including 1 BC win, and 4,450 wins overall. Calvin has 64 graded stakes including 1 BC win, 3 Derbies, 1 Preakness, and about 5,000 wins overall. Both resumes are pretty stellar.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 770711)

At this point he may wind up training JP's Gusto

Nice one, Chuck. :) (It's funny cuz it's true).

Looks like he will have 1,just matter of who it is either Stay Thirsty or JP's Gusto

It seems like JP's Gusto's connections have no clue what they wanna do tho,I would say if they both go then 1 will have Borel and the other 1 will have Ramon Dominguez

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 770733)

is castro staying on tobys corner?

has he ever been in the derby before?

Ya he is on Toby's Corner and Joel Rosario got the mount on Brilliant Speed

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Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell (Post 770580)

Just throw him on Stay Thirsty

Borel working Stay Thirsty tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey (Post 770950)

Borel working Stay Thirsty tomorrow.

Wow, they must have found a nice optional 50k claimer for him to run in. That's great news.

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 770795)

Ya he is on Toby's Corner and Joel Rosario got the mount on Brilliant Speed

Good luck to Eddie C. One of my favs.