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Cannon Shell 09-05-2006 08:34 PM

Moodwalker wins the Edward Sexton "I can train in Ocala better than Mott and Zito" T shirt!!!!

oracle80 09-05-2006 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Steinbrenner bought Bellamy Road for $87,000 on the recommendation of his farm manager, the Irish born trainer Ed Sexton, who had worked with Bellamy Road when he was a yearling at Ocala Stud Farm.

yeah, hes a prince alright. This is one of those times I wish I could blow my stack and break a trust, but I can't. better log off soon before I really blow my stack.

oracle80 09-05-2006 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Moodwalker wins the Edward Sexton "I can train in Ocala better than Mott and Zito" T shirt!!!!

Chester was a good trainer. days of my youth here.

Cunningham Racing 09-05-2006 09:04 PM

This is what I couldn't say two weeks ago when I posted the news to-be for BR....they've been working on a syndication deal for a few weeks now and have entertained many stud farm reps who had been flying into Ocala....

The horse has MANY small problems and always has from what I hear from VERY close sources....obviously, his nagging and primarily issues were the splint problems on both legs that are basically chronic....he's a big horse which magnified his problems when it came to the stress of training...

He seems to be well-priced at $10K, although he is a little too big and his pedigree is certainly subpar - but he could really run when right.....

At least he figures to get solid support from soem of Kinsman's second string mares.....hopefully, he'll make it although my forecast wouldn't be for anything spectacular....

Bold Brooklynite 09-05-2006 10:40 PM

So ...

... the Rockport Harbor/Bellamy Road Lifetime Starts Under/Over Pool ... which began in April 2005 ... with 9.5 being the under/over for total combined lifetime starts after that date ...

... has finally concluded ... with "Under" being the decisive winner.

Whew! What a nail-biting 16 months this has been!

Bold Brooklynite 09-05-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
Why would anyone care?

:mad:

They cared because of the Under/Over pool ... that's why.

Rupert Pupkin 09-05-2006 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
Why would anyone care?

:mad:

Probably because he was one of the best horses in the country last year talent wise. He didn't accomplish as much as he could have if he would have stayed sound, but he still had a good year. He won a Grade I race(The Wood Memorial) by about 18 lengths. He ran 2nd in another Grade I race(The Travers). If he would have been sound enough to make it back this year, he would have been one of the early favorites to win the BC Classic. That is why people care. If you don't care about a horse like him, then what are you doing on a horseracing message board?

Bold Brooklynite 09-06-2006 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Your knowledge has been bery impressive on this board. You're a great judge of talent. Your prediction that Mayan King would be the best horse this year shows how sharp you are.

We may want to hire you to do some scouting for us. How much would you charge to pick out some horses for us?

Get your facts straight, Rupe ...

Mayan King is my horse ... and no one else's. You'll be choking on those words when he's 2007 Horse-Of-The-Year.

He who horselaughs last ...

And Dixie is the world's second most knowledgeable thoroughbred racing expert ... and you AREN'T the first.

Rupert Pupkin 09-06-2006 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Get your facts straight, Rupe ...

Mayan King is my horse ... and no one else's. You'll be choking on those words when he's 2007 Horse-Of-The-Year.

He who horselaughs last ...

And Dixie is the world's second most knowledgeable thoroughbred racing expert ... and you AREN'T the first.

I don't even need to talk about my credentials. Anyone who reads our posts can figure out who is more knowledgable.

Bold Brooklynite 09-06-2006 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Anyone who reads our posts can figure out who is more knowledgable.

Exactly .

Gander 09-06-2006 01:05 PM

In races of 3- 6 F. it is more difficult to prevent this travesty. At 9 F it is simply unexcuseable

I want to see a 3F race where a horse wins by 18 lengths. LOL!

Assttodixie 09-06-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
In races of 3- 6 F. it is more difficult to prevent this travesty. At 9 F it is simply unexcuseable

I want to see a 3F race where a horse wins by 18 lengths. LOL!

Boss, Boss, Boss-

Why do you continue to throw pearls to swine? I'll save you the trouble of having to condescend to explain this to an inferior mind.

I am surprised this guy hasnt seen it happen a million times with all of the 3F races that are carded around the country these days.

Gander, I'll put this plainly so that even YOU can understand. When horses run 3f, often times they are whipped right out of the gate. Once that momentum gets going, very quickly the creme rises to the top. After the first furlong, if the horse isnt up by at least 10 lengths, the horse is a GOAT and should be pulling cart instead of racing. Well, when he is up by ten lengths, the jockey has got to hold the horse back. Simple as that.

At 9 furlongs, you better believe the trainer is instructing them to hold back when they get up by 15 lengths. You better believe it Pal.

Rupert Pupkin 09-06-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
98% of the time any horse wins a race by 18 1/2 lengths it qualifies as one of the WORST rides of the year.

I doubt anyone on here understands that, but it is a fact carved in stone.

In races of 3- 6 F. it is more difficult to prevent this travesty. At 9 F it is simply unexcuseable.

I agree with you there. There is no reason for a jock to ask a horse if he doesn't have to. Most jocks don't understand this. These horses ae very fragile. If they can win under a strangle-hold without being asked, the race won't take much out of the horse and it is much more likely that the horse will come out of the race in one piece.

dalakhani 09-06-2006 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by merasmag
that is still no reason to blame the horse or say "who cares"---this was a great one...i hope whatever knowledge little o has of this leads him to be a red sox fan:cool:

A great one? Does that make Flower Alley immortal then?

Scurlogue Champ 09-06-2006 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
A great one? Does that make Flower Alley immortal then?

Of course it does. ;)

And it makes Pleasant Tap and Second Of June basically demi-gods.

kentuckyrosesinmay 09-06-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
A great one? Does that make Flower Alley immortal then?

Flower Alley, while a very good horse, never showed the kind of raw talent that Bellamy Road showed. That horse was awesome when he wasn't hurting.

BellamyRd. 09-06-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
So ...

... the Rockport Harbor/Bellamy Road Lifetime Starts Under/Over Pool ... which began in April 2005 ... with 9.5 being the under/over for total combined lifetime starts after that date ...

... has finally concluded ... with "Under" being the decisive winner.

Whew! What a nail-biting 16 months this has been!


what's the over/under on you shutting the F up and being a decent human being for once?

Bold Brooklynite 09-06-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Flower Alley, while a very good horse, never showed the kind of raw that Bellamy Road showed.

Just wait 'til Flower Alley goes to stud ...

... he'll show a lot more raw then.

Bold Brooklynite 09-06-2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
what's the over/under on you shutting the F up and being a decent human being for once?

Can't make a pool on my decency and character ...

... because no matter how high the bar is set ... "Over" wins every time.


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