Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 732310)

I heard he was the best horse since Spectacular Bid.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 732322)

Maybe on Thoro-Graph figures - for about six weeks...until the first of about 38 horses to surpass his all-time record figure came along.

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 732325)

He's been a heckuva lot better than Ghostzapper in the shed, that's for sure.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 732326)

It was tongue in cheek, a member of this forum has espoused the theory that Mineshaft was the best horse since the Bid and I was breaking his balls a bit.

If only the four or five best handicap horses of 2003 could have gotten in the gate together at some point it would have been interesting. Medaglia d'Oro had a good year and was walloped by Candy Ride, so those three would have certainly made for an interesting race along with Pleasantly Perfect and Dynever of course.



You can't compare a 4th crop sire to a 2nd crop sire. That being said, GZ has been horrendous, even if his production of GI winners matches Mineshaft.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 732330)

Congaree was awesome that year - and Perfect Drift was a total beast as well. If Perfect Drift had any trainer other than Murray Johnson - he probably would have been the best horse since Bid. PD kept running monster races that year for a trainer who was like 4-for-100 and would claim a horse and watch it sink like a rock to the bottom.

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 732333)

Is Murray Johnson alive?

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 732336)

He's been out of the training game for a while. If he ever makes a comeback - it should be at River Downs.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 732297)

I forgot to include that Discreetly Mine was Mineshaft's first (and only) Grade I winner to date. Remember when he stood for 100k?

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 732399)

Better value than the folks who shelled out $100K+ for Forestry a few years ago. I believe he'll be standing next year for $12,500.

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 732418)

Zapper stood for 200k his first season.