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phystech 12-10-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 732361)
I can't say that I don't love running against her horses down there, but all she does is clutter up a full entry box, in regards to their turf races down there.

LOL, 37 entered in a 2 year old MSW Turf race and 19 entered in a 5f stakes race, and they can only go 10 deep, and they aren't costing themselves money. WIDEN THE TURF COURSE or change something to be able to run 12 per race on the lawn.

I'd guess most of these horses are simply entered to earn a date with no intention, or hope, of actually running in the race. See it all the time......

Why do Tampa purses still suck, bigtime? They brag about handle and then chump out on their purses......

Rudeboyelvis 12-10-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by phystech (Post 732602)
I'd guess most of these horses are simply entered to earn a date with no intention, or hope, of actually running in the race. See it all the time......

Why do Tampa purses still suck, bigtime? They brag about handle and then chump out on their purses......

My guess is so they can brag about handle.... Jus' sayin'.... they can pass that back to the gambler in lowered takeout and the Owners/Trainers still show up - what exactly is the complaint?

Habersham000 12-10-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by phystech (Post 732602)
I'd guess most of these horses are simply entered to earn a date with no intention, or hope, of actually running in the race. See it all the time......

Why do Tampa purses still suck, bigtime? They brag about handle and then chump out on their purses......

Earn a date? Wouldn't it have been easier just to have put the papers in the racing office to earn a date? Scratching a horse usually gives a horse a scratch date which is worse then a run date or putting your papers in the office at most tracks and might be put on a list for a certain amount of days and can't run anywhere...don't see any good or heard of anyone ever just putting a horse in a race just to scratch to get a date.

Scav 12-10-2010 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Habersham000 (Post 732606)
Earn a date? Wouldn't it have been easier just to have put the papers in the racing office to earn a date? Scratching a horse usually gives a horse a scratch date which is worse then a run date or putting your papers in the office at most tracks and might be put on a list for a certain amount of days and can't run anywhere...don't see any good or heard of anyone ever just putting a horse in a race just to scratch to get a date.

Yo, things are run differently down there. Its very unique. They have all sorts of dates and that is why turf races especially are a pain in the ass to get into, especially if there is an off the turf race because if you run in an off the turf race, you get a special date which trumps all.

All in all, it is a fun track to go and bs with the Don of Tampa and Exacta Bob, but running there is cost prohibitive

Rudeboyelvis 12-10-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 732610)
Yo, things are run differently down there. Its very unique. They have all sorts of dates and that is why turf races especially are a pain in the ass to get into, especially if there is an off the turf race because if you run in an off the turf race, you get a special date which trumps all.

All in all, it is a fun track to go and bs with the Don of Tampa and Exacta Bob, but running there is cost prohibitive

Not to mention that the condition book is nothing more than a vague suggestion after the first two weeks - pretty much everything thereafter is written off the overnights...

Habersham000 12-10-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 732610)
Yo, things are run differently down there. Its very unique. They have all sorts of dates and that is why turf races especially are a pain in the ass to get into, especially if there is an off the turf race because if you run in an off the turf race, you get a special date which trumps all.

All in all, it is a fun track to go and bs with the Don of Tampa and Exacta Bob, but running there is cost prohibitive

Well any track with a turf course that takes the race off the turf will either give you a super date or your old date back, which will more than likely get you back into the race the next time around...and if you get your papers in before the first day of the meet you should get a Zero Dirt and a Zero Turf date...whats different about that then at Tampa?

There was no point for anyone to put a horse in a race just to scratch to get a date when you already have a zero date in the case for the Del Castillo horse. A zero date is the best possible date you can have.

Its such a crap shoot to get in a race like that the first couple times it goes because its a popular race and everyone is going to have a zero date who wants to go in...you have to hope the racing gods help you out and get your entry pulled out of the box into the body of the race.

Scav 12-10-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Habersham000 (Post 732614)
Well any track with a turf course that takes the race off the turf will either give you a super date or your old date back, which will more than likely get you back into the race the next time around...and if you get your papers in before the first day of the meet you should get a Zero Dirt and a Zero Turf date...whats different about that then at Tampa?

There was no point for anyone to put a horse in a race just to scratch to get a date when you already have a zero date in the case for the Del Castillo horse. A zero date is the best possible date you can have.

Its such a crap shoot to get in a race like that the first couple times it goes because its a popular race and everyone is going to have a zero date who wants to go in...you have to hope the racing gods help you out and get your entry pulled out of the box into the body of the race.

Dude, I hear ya, but we are probably entering The Magic Bus in the first MSW down there on the dirt just to get a date, and the horse is at Philly Park for the winter.

Tampa is like no other, there is no rhyme or reason why their office does what they do or how they do it

The Indomitable DrugS 12-11-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 732254)
Vegas should have a head to head bet between the 4 and 10.

Janet's horse would have lost that head to head by almost 30 lengths. Offically, last beaten 50 lengths today.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20101211&RN=5

3kings 12-11-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 732822)
Janet's horse would have lost that head to head by almost 30 lengths. Offically, last beaten 50 lengths today.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20101211&RN=5

lol The 4 in finishing 2nd to last looks good by comparison. Will the 4 actually get a Beyer figure >0?

MISTERGEE 12-12-2010 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 732822)
Janet's horse would have lost that head to head by almost 30 lengths. Offically, last beaten 50 lengths today.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20101211&RN=5

yeah, but he had an excuse, he stopped
banked $170 in purse


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