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ateamstupid 11-08-2010 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by smartbid09 (Post 720305)
She will never be un-great. Her haters just hate. They hate the accolades she got. They hate the accolades she got as better than Secretariat and others. They wanted her to fail in her perfection quest.
I don't think objecting to her being called better than Secretariat makes you a hater. I think it makes you a realist and someone with a brain. Saying the bolded over and over again doesn't make it any truer and doesn't make being this much of a Zenyatta shill any more virtuous.

Dahoss 11-08-2010 03:35 PM
Oh my god

Dahoss 11-08-2010 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 720336)
I don't think objecting to her being called better than Secretariat makes you a hater. I think it makes you a realist and someone with a brain. Saying the bolded over and over again doesn't make it any truer.
Dude, he talked to Kurt Hoover and is buddies with Jon White.

Duvalier 11-08-2010 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by smartbid09 (Post 720335)
Talked with Kurt like 1 hour after BCC.

I'm buddies with Jon White too. I'm excited to hear if he's heard anything.
Better check out the esoteric forum for that info

ateamstupid 11-08-2010 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 720339)
Dude, he talked to Kurt Hoover and is buddies with Jon White.
It's kinda like calling Mike Lombardi an NFL insider.

smartbid09 11-08-2010 03:40 PM
Zenyatta is not better than Secretariat! I never thought she was. Any real fan of racing knows she's not. My point was that people hated that she was considered that great - which I don't - to the point that they called her a terrible horse. She's not. I'm a Zenyatta fan who is a realist. I see her for what she is. It's a shame that the Zenyattards don't understand racing.

ateamstupid 11-08-2010 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by smartbid09 (Post 720345)
Zenyatta is not better than Secretariat! I never thought she was. Any real fan of racing knows she's not. My point was that people hated that she was considered that great - which I don't - to the point that they called her a terrible horse. She's not. I'm a Zenyatta fan who is a realist. I see her for what she is. It's a shame that the Zenyattards don't understand racing.
No, you made that up. Show me one person who called her a terrible horse. Otherwise I'm going to have to ask that you retract that statement.

Duvalier 11-08-2010 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 720341)
It's kinda like calling Mike Lombardi an NFL insider.
Or the posters in Sports Bar & Grill

smartbid09 11-08-2010 03:41 PM
Zenyatta is great. And she should be brought Back! So Should Blame! But it's too late with him he's retired

ateamstupid 11-08-2010 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 720348)
Or the posters in Sports Bar & Grill
I resent being compared to Hoover and White.

Revidere 11-08-2010 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 720331)
If thats true, she did nothing to make them think she needs to be retired.
I would go....

Prep-World Cup-Whitney-JCGC-BC Classic
It's obvious she's lost a step. :rolleyes:

tector 11-08-2010 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by smartbid09 (Post 720349)
Zenyatta is great. And she should be brought Back! So Should Blame! But it's too late with him he's retired
Uh..there is a big difference the two. Really, really big.

tector 11-08-2010 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 720350)
I resent being compared to Hoover and White.
Who wouldn't?

smartbid09 11-08-2010 03:51 PM
Zenyatta is one of the Greatest of all time. And IMO she is the greatest female racehorse ever to step foot on the track. She shouldn't be retired and that's that. Unless she's not moving forward I would love to see one of the greatest run again next year.

Dahoss 11-08-2010 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by smartbid09 (Post 720367)
Zenyatta is one of the Greatest of all time. And IMO she is the greatest female racehorse ever to step foot on the track. She shouldn't be retired and that's that. Unless she's not moving forward I would love to see one of the greatest run again next year.
If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been following the sport?

ateamstupid 11-08-2010 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by smartbid09 (Post 720367)
Zenyatta is one of the Greatest of all time. And IMO she is the greatest female racehorse ever to step foot on the track. She shouldn't be retired and that's that. Unless she's not moving forward I would love to see one of the greatest run again next year.
I'm still waiting. Show me one person who said she's a terrible horse.

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 720374)
I'm still waiting. Show me one person who said she's a terrible horse.
I dont recall anyone ever saying that.
As a fan do you want her to retire or comeback?

ateamstupid 11-08-2010 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 720375)
I dont recall anyone ever saying that.
As a fan do you want her to retire or comeback?
I want that statement retracted before I go any further. Unless he/she can produce a quote of someone saying she's a terrible horse.

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 720378)
I want that statement retracted before I go any further. Unless he/she can produce a quote of someone saying she's a terrible horse.
As a fan of horse racing I want her back if they will take some chances... **** even if its the Gold Cup and Pacific Classic at home for her. I dont want her back running the same 2 campaigns from 2009 and 2010.

Indian Charlie 11-08-2010 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 720331)
If thats true, she did nothing to make them think she needs to be retired.
I would go....

Prep-World Cup-Whitney-JCGC-BC Classic
I would go SA Big Cap, Palos Verdes, San Juan Capistrano, Vanity, Eddie Read, Arlington Million, Ancient Title and BCC.


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