Besides PG, who thinks she has a shot in the Mile?

I'm all for trying to beat favorites, but I would suggest actually looking at the PPs with an open mind when they become available. It's well documented that you love Stay Thirsty and dislike BOT, but it seems like you're tossing him only to avenge your wrong opinion about him in the Hopeful. I haven't seen the PPs, but I would be shocked if Astrology has any kind of realistic chance to win the Juvy, even if his debut victory was a key race.

I can't wait to bet Paco Boy. He's 0-3 against Goldikova but the possibility of a fast pace and firmer turf course could be the equalizer.

All turf courses in Europe are firm.

Any guess as to what the Kova/Paco and Paco/Kova exactas pay? I know it's always risky banking on multiple shippers, but they're so much better than everyone else if I can get $15-$16 it might be a box worth making IMO.

You think 3-1 is really fair odds there?

I have been thinking about this and was just gonna ask what ballpark figure you would put it at?

I know you said somewhere else you cant see him being much higher than 5-1 but if Proviso and GioPonti also go, I can see him being 4th favourite at best and being double digits. He is available at 7-1 over here right now.

Goldikova is better than Paco Boy - do we really think the possibly firmer turf is going to make a difference. If someone beats her, it'll probably be Sidney's Candy or Gio (barring some up and coming Euro).

The pace is going to make a difference. I'm not saying it's going to hinder her at all, but I think a fast pace is going to help him and it's not like miles are separating the two of them.

You will take 16 bucks in a 10-12 horse field?

Don't you make a living betting the "Other Euro":D

how/where do you access this?

They're in the DRF Formulator PPs. You can find them under the Handicapping header...you need a subscription though.

All I see is the list of tracks and dates. ???

You're right. Had em up yesterday but they must have removed them...sorry.

They are?

Yep. They're on another planet from Gio Ponti and Sidney's Candy. Judging by your responses, I'll probably do better than $16, which answers my question.

I dont see how Gio Ponti has a chance, is he going to outkick Gold, Paco, and Proviso? Sidneys Candy is dangerous, what if he totally freaks again, hes the only horse who can still move way up.

Yeah well Araafa should have been a lock the last time it was at Churchill. There are alot of things that can happen in the Mile, and I'm giving Gio Ponti a big chance here. His kick matches up with these if he can get a trip IMO.

Is this how low we have sunk to actually thinking that our mediocre turf horses have any chance to beat top class European horses on the grass?

Come on, Gio Ponti? He's a neat horse and he's good for an American turf horse but how good is he really...he sure seems to find ways to lose races he should win.

Proviso, seriously? We already went over this. She couldn't get close to Goldikova in Europe and needed to come run against our average turf/synthetic females to start to win. She's really not that good.

And finally, Sidney's Candy. If there's a favorite and likely horse to finish last in the Mile this one is it. He's yet to face even average turf horses let alone true world class quality Milers. He may have the lead early but as soon as the class horses run him down watch him plummet to the back of the pack. If there's one thing I'm confident of in the Mile, it's this horse has zero chance to hit the board, let alone win.