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PatCummings 09-02-2010 12:06 AM
And for the record, the horses I used were random winners I clicked on...and not specific examples...it's just whatever I opened...and there it was...

clyde 09-03-2010 12:58 PM
I'm not sure what to say...



Not exactly a stunner.

jms62 09-04-2010 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JerseyJ (Post 690798)
Actually agree with this, as we have some horses out of Philly, and it works, especially with a PA-bred. We have a 2YO PA-bred who hasn't run yet, but you win a MSW, for a 45K purse, we also get the 40% PA-bred bonus, then if we are lucky enough to say win a MSW and NW1X, we are out for like the next 2 years in the black.

And don't get me started on Juan Carlos Guerrero, one of the biggest cheats in the country and easily the biggest cheat at Philadelphia not named McCaslin/Vayders/Auwarter. Guerrero is worse than them, worse than Lake, worse than everyone. He's improving horses at super-trainer ala Marty Wolfson levels at Philly. He's such a cheat, it's a joke.
Prove it.

MISTERGEE 09-04-2010 07:25 PM
yes, how do you "ask" him to leave without evidence

Cannon Shell 09-04-2010 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 692335)
Prove it.
LOL

Cannon Shell 09-04-2010 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 692353)
yes, how do you "ask" him to leave without evidence
The "evidence" is pretty clear. The guy isn't on trial, the track doesnt need any "evidence" to deny racing priviliges.

JerseyJ 09-05-2010 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 692335)
Prove it.
It's a fact that Vayders had something like 10 positives before she was finally taken to court to be banned. Pennsylvania makes their reports well known although they need to police this better. Guerrero is an absolute cheat who needs to be Kirk Ziadied out of Philly Park asap.

Pedigree Ann 09-05-2010 12:46 PM
Tampa Bay ruled off 10 or so jocks and exercise riders without any evidence, and made it stick. None was ever even charged with anything, much less tried or convicted. Tracks have amazing authority that way.


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