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Antitrust32 08-30-2010 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Siena 16 (Post 689825)
The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another
Who cares?

Like everyone said.. not the first or last time he'll hear those words.

the_fat_man 08-30-2010 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Siena 16 (Post 689825)
Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another
So a jock that thinks nothing of floating his competitor significantly wide, so that he can gain an advantage, should be immune from getting it stuck up his ass when his tactics fail?

I realize most would consider this race riding and perfectly acceptable.

I'm not exactly a Borel or RA fan, so, let's say the ending was pretty sweet all around. Borel is the typical bully when he has the advantage (as are most). He can dish it out and he should be able to take it.

F u ck him. He looks real pretty when he styles but when it comes to crunch time he can't do what some of the great ones could: help their horse get to the wire.

Thoroughbred Fan 08-30-2010 10:43 AM
The bottom line is that this is a free country and people can say what they want. Losing money and drinking don't help folks act with class and dignity.

CB knows these truths and chose a public job that is open to scrutiny. He could have chosen another profession.

Stop crying a river for him.

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v j stauffer 08-30-2010 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Siena 16 (Post 689825)
The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another
Sounds like a normal pizza and a movie night at my house.

Indian Charlie 08-30-2010 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 689884)
Sounds like a normal pizza and a movie night at my house.
I didn't realize you were married to Stone Gossard.

Indian Charlie 08-30-2010 12:26 PM
Come to think of it, things now make sense with you two.

clyde 08-30-2010 01:11 PM
How can a thread like this inspire anything?






Tell me what you think about fans yelling and cursing him. Would you?Have you?Why?Why not? Did you come if you screamed at him? Why? Why not? Tell me..tell me right now.

my miss storm cat 08-30-2010 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Siena 16 (Post 689769)
The verbal abuse Calvin Borel received walking back through the crowd to the jocks room after "Rachel" was defeated is simply an embarrassment to Saratoga Race Course and is an example of uneducated racing fans who follow this great game for 40 Days and couldn't tell you when the Belmont Fall meet opens. The great part of the Saratoga experience is the access and freedom fans have to horses, trainers, jockeys and other personalities throughout the horse industry. And five or ten idiots had to finish a great racing weekend by telling Calvin Borel what he should or shouldn't have done

LEARN THE GAME BEFORE YOU SPEAK!
1. Are you 12?

2. Why is Rachel is quotations?

3. I was a little surprised by the uneducated fans bit... I'd have thought it was more the diehards who would yell at him.

4. It's called passion. There is so much passion in this sport we all love. Easy for me to say it's a good thing since I've never been yelled at by random people but come on... it happens. I (am no fan of Calvins but) would never do it and I presume you wouldn't but the reality is that it happens and the jocks can take it. It must suck and everything but they know to expect it.

cakes44 08-30-2010 02:29 PM
Calvin made like $2000 for his 2 minutes of work in the race and then taking some crap on the walk back. Not bad if you ask me.

Indian Charlie 08-30-2010 02:32 PM
Hell, I have to deal with being compared to bat guano on here, and then be accused of having to look the word up to know what it means.

PatCummings 08-30-2010 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 689862)
So a jock that thinks nothing of floating his competitor significantly wide, so that he can gain an advantage, should be immune from getting it stuck up his ass when his tactics fail?

I realize most would consider this race riding and perfectly acceptable.

I'm not exactly a Borel or RA fan, so, let's say the ending was pretty sweet all around. Borel is the typical bully when he has the advantage (as are most). He can dish it out and he should be able to take it.

F u ck him. He looks real pretty when he styles but when it comes to crunch time he can't do what some of the great ones could: help their horse get to the wire.
Last I checked, Borel didn't say anything about fan treatment or comments. I'd say you are the harsh one.

And, for that matter, winning America's most prestigious race three out of four years, an unrivaled accomplishment in this country, oh - and being a half-decent guy, trumps some of your completely unsubstantiated generalities.

RockHardTen1985 08-30-2010 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 689817)
yes, because i'm sure that robbie wouldn't get the call if calvin came off.

I know he wont. Shaun has been working the horse....

the_fat_man 08-30-2010 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 689941)
Last I checked, Borel didn't say anything about fan treatment or comments. I'd say you are the harsh one.

And, for that matter, winning America's most prestigious race three out of four years, an unrivaled accomplishment in this country, oh - and being a half-decent guy, trumps some of your completely unsubstantiated generalities.
Another one with interpretation issues.

Borel likes to style, 'race ride', and celebrate excessively. He got it stuck up his ass yesterday. Having lost plenty of times as a result of one of those rail skimming rides of his, and having to watch him with the fist pumping and kiss blowing, YES, I got some pleasure out of watching him get run down yesterday. Never wrote anything about Borel complaining. Just about how enjoyable it was to me. :rolleyes:

He's jut a PUNK. He doesn't add anything to a horse. He certainly can't finish, even up, with any of the better jocks in the country. He's real good at those cute moves, however.

alysheba4 08-30-2010 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Siena 16 (Post 689825)
The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another
......you should have been at belmont when smarty jones got beat.

ArlJim78 08-30-2010 05:53 PM
He's a big boy and can handle a few loudmouths. but imo opinion he caused the best horse in the race to lose. He never had to worry about catching Life At Ten, he was always going to catch that one. All he had to do to win the race was to not get cute and do something stupid, but he just couldn't resist. I would never ride the guy in a big race except maybe in the derby or at Churchill.

smuthg 08-30-2010 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78 (Post 690064)
He's a big boy and can handle a few loudmouths. but imo opinion he caused the best horse in the race to lose. He never had to worry about catching Life At Ten, he was always going to catch that one. All he had to do to win the race was to not get cute and do something stupid, but he just couldn't resist. I would never ride the guy in a big race except maybe in the derby or at Churchill.
He knows his way around Oaklawn also...

HaloWishingwell 08-30-2010 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 689794)
Happens to me everyday as I leave HP after calling the races. Passionate game. Fan is short for fanatic. As long as it's not vulgar or personal( Big A exempt) I say If you buy a ticket on a horse you buy the right to complain about the ride. Calvin's a big boy. Chillax.
Those are Derby trail fans

Danzig 08-30-2010 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 689961)
I know he wont. Shaun has been working the horse....
yep...he has been. but he's not stonestreets first call rider, robbie is...of course robbie is out right now. you did see who rode stonestreets kantharos in robbie's absence, right? i'll give you a hint, not shaun.

RockHardTen1985 08-30-2010 06:38 PM
[quote=Danzig;690072]yep...he has been. but he's not stonestreets first call rider, robbie is...of course robbie is out right now. you did see who rode stonestreets kantharos in robbie's absence, right? i'll give you a hint, not shaun.[/QUOTE

Ok.


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