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miraja2 07-12-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 668312)
If Point Given can get in, does it really matter if any horse ever gets in? I mean its a joke.

A joke?
I think a person could make a reasonable argument either way on Point Given. If somebody thinks the Hall should have a very strict standard for admittance (as you apparently do) that's fine. Others might not.
Personally, I think when you compare Point Given to the horses of his era he stacks up very nicely. There sure weren't a lot of 3yos in the decade before or after him that had better campaigns.
If you don't think he should be in...fine. But it is hardly as obviously wrong as you want to make it seem. Personally I think he belongs.

randallscott35 07-12-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 668366)
A joke?
I think a person could make a reasonable argument either way on Point Given. If somebody thinks the Hall should have a very strict standard for admittance (as you apparently do) that's fine. Others might not.
Personally, I think when you compare Point Given to the horses of his era he stacks up very nicely. There sure weren't a lot of 3yos in the decade before or after him that had better campaigns.
If you don't think he should be in...fine. But it is hardly as obviously wrong as you want to make it seem. Personally I think he belongs.

You answered your own question. Its the Hall Of Fame. It either means something or it doesn't. You believe it doesn't. So be it.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-12-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 668355)
Still waiting for Leroidesanimaux or whatever it is getting in after his gutty mile

He was one hell of a turf horse.

Obviously he shouldn't come close because he's a turf horse.

It took all the way until 2008 for Manila to get in. Gio Ponti is not exactly Manila.

randallscott35 07-12-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 668375)
He was one hell of a turf horse.

Obviously he shouldn't come close because he's a turf horse.

It took all the way until 2008 for Manila to get in. Gio Ponti is not exactly Manila.

Yup and he doesn't belong either.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-12-2010 08:58 PM

Mineshaft - now there is a horse who doesn't belong!

miraja2 07-12-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 668367)
You answered your own question. Its the Hall Of Fame. It either means something or it doesn't. You believe it doesn't. So be it.

In a sense you're right. I honestly don't care about who gets in and who doesn't. The HOF doesn't really interest me.
If you disagree with Point Given getting in, that's fine. I totally think you can make a very legitimate argument against him.
But I think people can make a legitimate argument for him as well.

randallscott35 07-12-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 668379)
Mineshaft - now there is a horse who doesn't belong!

Haha, and he isn't there is he.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-12-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 668349)
How about A.P. Indy being inducted?

Yeah - If he got in - I think Point Given's case was very solid.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-12-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 668382)
Haha, and he isn't there is he.

If Deshawn Park still leads the nation in wins as a black jockey based in West Virginia .. after not riding the first two months of the year and missing enough time to cost me 10K due to breaking his foot ..... does he deserve to get in?

randallscott35 07-12-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 668393)
If Deshawn Park still leads the nation in wins as a black jockey based in West Virginia .. after not riding the first two months of the year and missing enough time to cost me 10K due to breaking his foot ..... does he deserve to get in?

:(...Make 10k the old fashioned way. Work.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-12-2010 09:14 PM

I'm not putting myself through something I don't want to do when I have no use for the money anyway.

santana 07-12-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 668395)
:(...Make 10k the old fashioned way. Work.


If you think winning those contests, isnt work. Think again.

RockHardTen1985 07-12-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by santana (Post 668405)
If you think winning those contests, isnt work. Think again.

Yes him sitting home, playing an online horse contest, while talking about socks and jerking off is hard work. I totally agree.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-12-2010 09:46 PM

What do you want from me Joseph? To go off to some fagotty school for a long time and get hooked up with Goldman Sachs so I can try and easily out thieve the best of the scum?

randallscott35 07-12-2010 09:48 PM

Ditch digger would suffice

RockHardTen1985 07-12-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 668411)
What do you want from me Joseph? To go off to some fagotty school for a long time and get hooked up with Goldman Sachs so I can try and easily out thieve the best of the scum?

You told me recently its all in good clean fun, no?

Indian Charlie 07-12-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 668376)
Yup and he doesn't belong either.

Manila doesn't belong?????

I hope you were trying to imply the other horse doesn't.

randallscott35 07-12-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 668421)
Manila doesn't belong?????

I hope you were trying to imply the other horse doesn't.

GP, not Manilia


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