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Riot 07-07-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 665895)
I love love love this sort of counter argument that proponents of vaccines use.

"Well, I can't dispute what he's saying with real fact, so lets mock him and make him look like a nut case".

In your case however, clearly that stuff they are putting in vaccines to make people dumber seems to have worked.

Nice, huh?

Go take an Immunology 101 course and get back to me.

Riot 07-07-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 665906)
The evidence for a conspiracy is quite clear. We have been doing vaccinations for many years -- the polio vaccine in 1952 is one famous example. Yet a lot of people have died since 1952.

In fact, 1% of the population on average dies every year! That's 3,000,000 people in America alone. :eek:

Aliens. Roswell, New Mexico. The doubters have no facts to disprove the aliens have caused this.

Riot 07-07-2010 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 665897)
I myself am fully immersed in the thimerisol topic, .

Then at least spell it correctly, okay?

joeydb 07-07-2010 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 665908)
Aliens. Roswell, New Mexico. The doubters have no facts to disprove the aliens have caused this.

Yeah, it's like "Just because I'm paranoid, that doesn't mean that they aren't all out to get me."

Indian Charlie 07-07-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 665902)
Yeah, people that insist upon evidence-based science really can put a kink into a good theory ;)

I can bury you in science based proof.

Not make believe scientific studies funded by pharma.

Indian Charlie 07-07-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 665907)
Go take an Immunology 101 course and get back to me.

Already done.

Take off the blinders and do research yourself, instead of taking for gospel everything you are taught.

Then get back to me.

Indian Charlie 07-07-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 665910)
Then at least spell it correctly, okay?

Exactly.

If that's the best you can do to dispute what I'm saying, thank you.

Sorry for the early morning typo there.

Riot 07-07-2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 665973)
I can bury you in science based proof.
.

Alas, no. Only the true believers can see the truth in this one :tro:

timmgirvan 07-07-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 666018)
Alas, no. Only the true believers can see the truth in this one :tro:

Oh yeah, flouride worked SO well for us didn't it!

Indian Charlie 07-07-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 666018)
Alas, no. Only the true believers can see the truth in this one :tro:

No, I cannot bury you with scientific proof?

Or no, as in, "No no no no no! I will not hear you!" type of no?

Or no, as in "If he's right, that means everything I believe and everything I've been educated in is a lie" type of no?

Or no, as in "if I keep using :tro: icons in my posts, that will prove that all beliefs are just!"

Or no, as in "I no longer have the capacity to think for myself"?

Or is there some other meaning I'm not getting?

Indian Charlie 07-07-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 666032)
Oh yeah, flouride worked SO well for us didn't it!

Yeah. Industrial waste by-product turned rat poison turned dental aid.

Only in America.

Antitrust32 07-07-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 666076)
Yeah. Industrial waste by-product turned rat poison turned dental aid.

Only in America.

so I shouldnt pay extra for a flouride rinse at the dentist twice a year?

Indian Charlie 07-07-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 666078)
so I shouldnt pay extra for a flouride rinse at the dentist twice a year?

Personal preference, I suppose.

Honestly, I don't even know if that's the same fluoride that's used in municipal water supplies, though I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

Which, by the way, isn't even fluoride.

Riot 07-07-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 666073)
No, I cannot bury you with scientific proof?

Or no, as in, "No no no no no! I will not hear you!" type of no?

Or no, as in "If he's right, that means everything I believe and everything I've been educated in is a lie" type of no?

Or no, as in "if I keep using :tro: icons in my posts, that will prove that all beliefs are just!"

Or no, as in "I no longer have the capacity to think for myself"?

Or is there some other meaning I'm not getting?

No, as in the scientific evidence simply is not there. Just conspiracy theories and fear.

You say you have science-based proof, yet the vast majority of the scientific world has, continues to, reject your "proofs" as inadequate and false in the face of overwhelming and clear evidence to the contrary.

You're in the thin, small minority on this one. You hang in there.

Riot 07-07-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 666032)
Oh yeah, flouride worked SO well for us didn't it!

You can see the conspiracy theories better when your water is flouridated :D

Indian Charlie 07-07-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 666138)
No, as in the scientific evidence simply is not there. Just conspiracy theories and fear.

You say you have science-based proof, yet the vast majority of the scientific world has, continues to, reject your "proofs" as inadequate and false in the face of overwhelming and clear evidence to the contrary.

You're in the thin, small minority on this one. You hang in there.

You really are as bad as everyone says you are. I didn't believe it, but it's true.

Oh well.

I guess those people who got injected and had their life permanently made worse, that was just imagined.

I suppose I could also give you real data as to how much mercury is in vaccines, as well as real data showing the direct correlation between the amount of vaccines kids get to the rise in autism.

I don't suppose it means anything to you that the symptoms of mercury poisoning are nearly identical to those of autism?

No, of course not.

Indian Charlie 07-07-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 666138)

You say you have science-based proof, yet the vast majority of the scientific world has, continues to, reject your "proofs" as inadequate and false in the face of overwhelming and clear evidence to the contrary.

I forgot to mention. Most of the 'world' has outlawed the use of this preservative. So, again, you are in the overwhelming minority.

Riot 07-07-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 666224)
You really are as bad as everyone says you are. I didn't believe it, but it's true.

Oh well.

I guess those people who got injected and had their life permanently made worse, that was just imagined.

I suppose I could also give you real data as to how much mercury is in vaccines, as well as real data showing the direct correlation between the amount of vaccines kids get to the rise in autism.

I don't suppose it means anything to you that the symptoms of mercury poisoning are nearly identical to those of autism?

No, of course not.

Well, actually, yes, yes it does. Unlike you, I actually vaccinate living creatures every day, and I am responsible for what subsequently happens to them over the course of their lifetimes. Of course it matters to me.

Alot more, I imagine, than to a poster on an internet list who's thoroughly researched "scientific" starting off point was, "vaccines don't work".

I have obviously arrived at a far different conclusion that you have regarding the subject.

Of course, that difference of opinion means, to you, that I'm "as bad as everyone says I am".

Which, sadly, demonstrates the depth and approach of your scientific view of the subject matter.

Riot 07-07-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 666226)
I forgot to mention. Most of the 'world' has outlawed the use of this preservative. So, again, you are in the overwhelming minority.

You don't apparently know how long thimerosol has been out of the US vaccination market, huh?

BTW - I don't use thimerosol. So I don't know what "overwhelming minority" you think I am in. Just saying stuff sorta makes you look even crazier than the "anti-vaccination dude" meme you're currently going with.

Indian Charlie 07-07-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 666242)
You don't apparently know how long thimerosol has been out of the US vaccination market, huh?

BTW - I don't use thimerosol. So I don't know what "overwhelming minority" you think I am in. Just saying stuff sorta makes you look even crazier than the "anti-vaccination dude" meme you're currently going with.

Unless it went off the market today and I didn't read about it, it is still used.

As a matter of fact, some of the childhood vaccines that were being advertised as being thimerosol free, did indeed still have it in them. FACT.

I have a serious question for you, no sarcasm intended. Why were they using this stuff as a preservative in the first place? I mean it, really, why were they using it?


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