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Coach Pants 06-30-2010 12:46 PM


joeydb 06-30-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 663420)

There are no Newts in the Republican part of congress anymore. (the dems may disagree, but I think he was the MAN in the 90's - he's really brilliant, with personal shortcomings - but dont we all)

I'd love to see a Newt - Obama debate. Newt would absolutely destroy him intellectually.

brianwspencer 06-30-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 663446)
I'd love to see a Newt - Obama debate. Newt would absolutely destroy him intellectually.

:wf

Antitrust32 06-30-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 663446)
I'd love to see a Newt - Obama debate. Newt would absolutely destroy him intellectually.

he's probably been the best conservative since Ronnie.

Antitrust32 06-30-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 663447)
:wf

there is no doubt he would. Newt has forgot more than Obama will ever learn about this game called politics. the experience level alone is nowhere close, and Obama holds the highest office in the land!

noone in the Republican party is even close to Newt as far as brilliance goes either.

Coach Pants 06-30-2010 12:55 PM

I think Obama could hold his own. Debates on television come down to who looks better physically and who can out bulls.hit the other.

Advantage Obama.

dellinger63 06-30-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 663423)
I keep wanting to do this.. but cant bring myself to do it yet.

Who else is capable of predicting Obama in a landslide and then saying (in regards to ObamaCare) "He was willing to sacrifice a second term to it, and he got it done (the start)." within a couple of days?

She's like an old steam locomotive, in the way of a bullet train, refusing to pull off the track. The steam is building and she'll eventually blow! :)

joeydb 06-30-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 663455)
I think Obama could hold his own. Debates on television come down to who looks better physically and who can out bulls.hit the other.

Advantage Obama.


Oh, if you mean a debate as devoid of substance as Obama's own campaign was, (i.e. "Hope and Change" "Yes we Can"), then sure.

I thought we were literally talking about an intellectual debate - pitting ideas against each other. The proponents of those ideas are secondary.

Coach Pants 06-30-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 663457)
Oh, if you mean a debate as devoid of substance as Obama's own campaign was, (i.e. "Hope and Change" "Yes we Can"), then sure.

I thought we were literally talking about an intellectual debate - pitting ideas against each other. The proponents of those ideas are secondary.

And when was the last time a debate like that happened?

Exactly.

Americans, for the most part, are morons. They want style over substance.

Antitrust32 06-30-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 663457)
Oh, if you mean a debate as devoid of substance as Obama's own campaign was, (i.e. "Hope and Change" "Yes we Can"), then sure.

I thought we were literally talking about an intellectual debate - pitting ideas against each other. The proponents of those ideas are secondary.

Obama could out debate Jesus with regards to your first paragraph. He's so good that he got himself elected POTUS with the minimal amount of experience and record he had. That is just amazing.

Newt > Obama with regards to actual intellect.

Antitrust32 06-30-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 663456)
Who else is capable of predicting Obama in a landslide and then saying (in regards to ObamaCare) "He was willing to sacrifice a second term to it, and he got it done (the start)." within a couple of days?

She's like an old steam locomotive, in the way of a bullet train, refusing to pull off the track. The steam is building and she'll eventually blow! :)

hey at least she didnt accuse you of not planning for your own retirement.

Riot 06-30-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 663411)
just keep swinging on his nutz......hey riot why is the oil still flowing on day 73
if hes been in charge of it the whole time.. shut up, your old act is soo fkn tired..

what does the report card say ..your on iggy list no 1

LOL - I wish - please :tro:

Riot 06-30-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan (Post 663426)
Please tell me what he has accomplished???

His defenders make rabid Zenyatta fans look sane...

Go read the list 'Zig posted on politifact. But I doubt you are interested. Nothing will convince some that anything he's accomplished is worthwhile.

Riot 06-30-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 663456)
Who else is capable of predicting Obama in a landslide and then saying (in regards to ObamaCare) "He was willing to sacrifice a second term to it, and he got it done (the start)." within a couple of days?

Well, Dell, I'm glad you've picked up a new quote from me you can keep putting forth out of context, in an effort to prove how simplistic and simpleminded you are about political discourse :tro:

Obama has said himself, he'd be willing to sacrifice a second term if he could get healthcare and nuclear proliferation limitations accomplished. He's said it. That's no secret.

Riot 06-30-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 663448)
he's probably been the best conservative since Ronnie.

Obama isn't as good a politician as Newt. I agree, he is probably the best conserve. since Reagan.

Antitrust32 06-30-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 663472)
Obama isn't as good a politician as Newt. I agree, he is probably the best conserve. since Reagan.

I hope he runs in 2012. He's the best option this country has. Shoot I wouldnt even mind him picking Hillary, or an Independant as his running mate (though that is a pipe dream)

Riot 06-30-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 663400)
hahahahahahah! oh the comedy! hey at least you are good for that! :tro:

That's right, the Libertarians, birthers, and ultra-right-conservatives on this board are obviously terribly objective about Obama

:tro:

dellinger63 06-30-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 663470)
Well, Dell, I'm glad you've picked up a new quote from me you can keep putting forth out of context, in an effort to prove how simplistic and simpleminded you are about political discourse :tro:

Obama has said himself, he'd be willing to sacrifice a second term if he could get healthcare and nuclear proliferation limitations accomplished. He's said it. That's no secret.

OK this is getting 'Carter' complex.

So despite Obama's willingness to sacrifice a second term for passing his healthcare he will win a second term in a landslide because the GOP has no one to run?

Riot 06-30-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 663457)
Oh, if you mean a debate as devoid of substance as Obama's own campaign was, (i.e. "Hope and Change" "Yes we Can"), then sure.

I thought we were literally talking about an intellectual debate - pitting ideas against each other. The proponents of those ideas are secondary.

Did you see any of the President debates, Joey?

Antitrust32 06-30-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 663477)
Did you see any of the President debates, Joey?

he is a master bater.. I mean debater.. that is for sure.


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