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MaTH716 07-01-2010 10:27 AM

He really did some nunber on Quantrill as well.

Crown@club 07-01-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 662777)
Of course people that are fans of other teams are gunna say Brox is great. They know, if they ever really need to win a pressure game, they can get it off him. Any objective person would have to note that the guy is useless in big games. The only exception is during the divisional series (when the Dodgers were big underdogs.)

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 663696)

To hell he ain't.
You got a tumor or something? He's single-handedly lost the pivotal game 4 in the NLCS 2 years in a row (not once.) He just blew a game that they had a 4 run lead in. Yankee Fans infested Dodger Stadium. That was a playoff atmosphere that night. We all know it, but only a few will admit it. He blew that game because it was intense. He's a weak person. I'll go to the post with Valverde. I doubt he had the run support that Broxton has pssd away. I certainly do know what's gunna happen if we rely on Brox to close in the post. You don't have to be brilliant to figure that out. Come on, would you really be sticking up for this choking cow if it wasn't me who despises him? We are gunna bet on this. If the Dodgers make it to the post(big if,) then we'll vote on this fatboy's performance in the post. If you really believe this stuff, back it up. I would of won this bet the last 2 years, but you've again tried to couch together some angle. I recognize that scared bitch I saw on Sunday Night. She ain't changed her insides.

You're saying he chokes under pressure, but YOU wrote an exception. So even by your admission he has handled the pressure. WTF?

Cannon's blog posting is spot on!!!

SCUDSBROTHER 07-01-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 663848)
You're saying he chokes under pressure, but YOU wrote an exception. So even by your admission he has handled the pressure. WTF?

Cannon's blog posting is spot on!!!

We all know she chokes under pressure. She choked away the NLCS on 72 hours rest last year. Dodgers won both their Divisional series 3 games to nil. That gave her plenty of rest between series. In 2008, she had 8 days off before pitching 14 pitches in game 3 of the NLCS. The next night, she blew game 4. She is a choker. This is not fatigue. I would love to blame it on that, but I know this bitch will choke big games away regardless of whether she's been pitching a little, or a lot. The reason I don't complain about these other pitchers is because they don't have her ability. I know these are choke jobs. She has the talent to be almost as successful as Rivera, but she pisses it away, and she's an embarassment to her maker. She's an embarassment to the city. If you want to make the case for fatigue as the cause, then you have to be consistent, and explain why she choked on 72 hours rest in last years NLCS. She had 5 days off between series. We know exactly what she's capable of, and that's why were so upset at the bitch. Either way, they needed better relievers the last 2 years, and haven't addressed their sht (at all.) That really is the most important thing. This fkn Leprechaun owner spends way too much time thinking about sht that doesn't help them get a ring.

Cannon Shell 07-01-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 664099)
We all know she chokes under pressure. She choked away the NLCS on 72 hours rest last year. Dodgers won both their Divisional series 3 games to nil. That gave her plenty of rest between series. In 2008, she had 8 days off before pitching 14 pitches in game 3 of the NLCS. The next night, she blew game 4. She is a choker. This is not fatigue. I would love to blame it on that, but I know this bitch will choke big games away regardless of whether she's been pitching a little, or a lot. The reason I don't complain about these other pitchers is because they don't have her ability. I know these are choke jobs. She has the talent to be almost as successful as Rivera, but she pisses it away, and she's an embarassment to her maker. She's an embarassment to the city. If you want to make the case for fatigue as the cause, then you have to be consistent, and explain why she choked on 72 hours rest in last years NLCS. She had 5 days off between series. We know exactly what she's capable of, and that's why were so upset at the bitch. Either way, they needed better relievers the last 2 years, and haven't addressed their sht (at all.) That really is the most important thing. This fkn Leprechaun owner spends way too much time thinking about sht that doesn't help them get a ring.

Yeah I guess when Rivera "choked" in the 2001 WS he never lived it down. Killed his career.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-02-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 664141)
Yeah I guess when Rivera "choked" in the 2001 WS he never lived it down. Killed his career.

That was 1 time, and a lil blooper. It's one of the most admired at bats in World Series History. That batter's number is the 1st to be retired by the D'BACKS. Brox has been destroyed 2X by Philly in the post. Both times, it was on a horrible mistake that any High School player could of done damage with. He was absolutely ass kicked back into the dugout. It doesn't fit your theory. So, you need to bring others' failures in to try to lessen his fully-rested chokin'. If it was fatigue, I'd be the 1st to use that excuse. Don't you think I'd like to think they have some shot to close games in any future NLCS / WORLD SERIES efforts? They don't. They have no shot. They're in fkn denial. I know this pig's ways. She gets scared. Doesn't deal with it properly, and gets owned. She has plenty of talent, and can easily blow these people away. She's a mental failure of monumental proportions. For years to come, she will be the topic of many a Sports Psychology Book Chapters. You've been wrong about her in the post for the last 2 years, and may get a chance for a hat trick. I admit that her talent makes it easy to mistakenly look for excuses (Dodger brain thrust has gotten owned while making the same mistake,) but she's simply a scared bitch. It's not a difficult situation to figure out, it's simply a conclusion that people don't like. I don't like it. It's just the way it is with her. They would need like 5 of Ron Artest's Shrinks to even have a shot at changing her. For years now, the late action on her pitches has been tied to how scared she is (not how fatigued she is, or isn't.) This is so obvious to people that watch her day in /day out. We know what she can do. She's not doing it. She's scared.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-03-2010 12:03 AM

http://soundcloud.com/scuds/tracks

I'm tired of that "I Love L.A." song. No wonder this woman chokes. I'll donate this example.
Bank Robbery photo is all ya getting.

Rupert Pupkin 07-03-2010 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 664284)
That was 1 time, and a lil blooper. It's one of the most admired at bats in World Series History. That batter's number is the 1st to be retired by the D'BACKS. Brox has been destroyed 2X by Philly in the post. Both times, it was on a horrible mistake that any High School player could of done damage with. He was absolutely ass kicked back into the dugout. It doesn't fit your theory. So, you need to bring others' failures in to try to lessen his fully-rested chokin'. If it was fatigue, I'd be the 1st to use that excuse. Don't you think I'd like to think they have some shot to close games in any future NLCS / WORLD SERIES efforts? They don't. They have no shot. They're in fkn denial. I know this pig's ways. She gets scared. Doesn't deal with it properly, and gets owned. She has plenty of talent, and can easily blow these people away. She's a mental failure of monumental proportions. For years to come, she will be the topic of many a Sports Psychology Book Chapters. You've been wrong about her in the post for the last 2 years, and may get a chance for a hat trick. I admit that her talent makes it easy to mistakenly look for excuses (Dodger brain thrust has gotten owned while making the same mistake,) but she's simply a scared bitch. It's not a difficult situation to figure out, it's simply a conclusion that people don't like. I don't like it. It's just the way it is with her. They would need like 5 of Ron Artest's Shrinks to even have a shot at changing her. For years now, the late action on her pitches has been directly proportional to how scared she is (not how fatigued she is, or isn't.) This is so obvious to people that watch her day in /day out. We know what she can do. She's not doing it. She's scared.

I haven't really watched her pitch. Is she anything like Tom Neidenfuer? Tom Neidenfuer wasn't a bad pitcher but she always blew the big games.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-03-2010 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 664726)
I haven't really watched her pitch. Is she anything like Tom Neidenfuer? Tom Neidenfuer wasn't a bad pitcher but she always blew the big games.

Oh, I wouldn't think they're that close on talent. Brox has great stuff. When she gets tight, her secondary pitches are rarely thrown for strikes. The opposing teams know that. The fastball gets straight, loses mph, and is often down the center of the plate. There are definitely 2 different Broxton's, and it's pretty easy to see which one has come to the mound to pitch. I don't think Torre is wrong for using her when he does. However, he is very wrong for not taking her out of games. She either is gunna own the opposing batters, or she's gunna get owned by them. That's a given, but he ignores it when the choker Brox is obviously on display. That's some sort of respect thing, and it's costly. There's a lot more talent on this team than Neidenfuer had behind him. This team is underperforming in a big way. Gunna be very interesting to see if they straighten up when Donny Baseball takes over.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-18-2010 04:54 PM

Nutha choke.

Crown@club 07-18-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 670697)
Nutha choke.

I knew it!!! I knew it!!!. I predicted this at 4:30 and laughed my a$$ off at 4:50 when it happened, and knew you were going to say something. He had nothing today at all ,just like Marmol didn't have anything yesterday. Marmol was victim to abuse though.

Cannon Shell 07-18-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 670817)
I knew it!!! I knew it!!!. I predicted this at 4:30 and laughed my a$$ off at 4:50 when it happened, and knew you were going to say something. He had nothing today at all ,just like Marmol didn't have anything yesterday. Marmol was victim to abuse though.

Jenks was terrible today.

Crown@club 07-18-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 670818)
Jenks was terrible today.


LA is 40-3 with the lead after 7 innings, but that stat means nothing because they have a :rolleyes: "choke" closing for them.

Cannon Shell 07-18-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 670820)
LA is 40-3 with the lead after 7 innings, but that stat means nothing because they have a :rolleyes: "choke" closing for them.

Well when Rivera is done in 2 years or so Broxton should finally becoming onto the open market and we'll see how Scuds likes the next closer since JB will be in the Bronx.

Crown@club 07-18-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 670824)
Well when Rivera is done in 2 years or so Broxton should finally becoming onto the open market and we'll see how Scuds likes the next closer since JB will be in the Bronx.

....and I will continue to laugh my a$$ off when it happens.

Cannon Shell 07-18-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 670834)
....and I will continue to laugh my a$$ off when it happens.

of course if Torre keeps asking him to throw close to 50 pitches an outing he may not make it

Crown@club 07-18-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 670838)
of course if Torre keeps asking him to throw close to 50 pitches an outing he may not make it

On a different note.

I'm curious on your thoughts of Armando Benetiz before he turn 30.

Cannon Shell 07-18-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 670841)
On a different note.

I'm curious on your thoughts of Armando Benetiz before he turn 30.

I was at the Yankee/O's game when Daryl Strawberry came flying out of the dugout to fight him after he beaned Tino Martinez.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-18-2010 11:35 PM

He almost always chokes in the most important situations though. They needed to get one out of four from the Cards, and stay within 4 1/2 games. It's important not to get swept in a 4 game series starting the 2nd half. It's the importance of the game that got this choker thinking too much. Guy doesn't throw enough strikes in these situations. That's why Jay was able to take ball 4 in the 9th. If the fkr would throw strikes in these choke games, then they wouldn't feel like they can take that pitch. Despite what you two think, these opposing players do know he's a choke. They aren't exactly scared of taking strike 3. The're pretty sure he's gunna miss the zone. They foul off anything in the zone, and then know they'll probably get ball 4 from the choke.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-18-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 670838)
of course if Torre keeps asking him to throw close to 50 pitches an outing he may not make it

It took that many pitches, cuz she's a fkn choke. Always a lot of pitches, cuz they know she'll choke if they can just milk that cow long enough. Look at what happened. She gets 'em down in 1-2 counts, and then kets them get the count back in their favor (cuz she's a fkn choke.)

MaTH716 07-19-2010 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 670853)
I was at the Yankee/O's game when Daryl Strawberry came flying out of the dugout to fight him after he beaned Tino Martinez.

I was at that game too.


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