IMO Obama passed Carter a few months ago, is moving like a machine, and is all alone. Thankfully DOWN the stretch he comes. And as he finishes the ole DT saying comes to mind, 'he's done enough!'.

How much longer do you want these states to wait? The bureaucrats in DC could care less about the illegals. Yes I am talking about both Democrats and Repubicans. We have a worthless President who would rather go golfing then address the issues that face this country. Maybe O'Dumbass had an illegal shine his golf shoes for him before he played a round of golf. These worthless f cking illegals need to be dealt with so we wont be wasting any more tax money. Obviously O'Dumbass doesn't see that way. I applaud the Governor of Arizona for taking the steps to combat these illiterate not worth a sh t illegals.

that's really ridiculous. actually, most immigrants are some of the nicest, hardest working people you'd ever meet.

as for the govt not caring, you're right, they don't. know why? money. pay attention to any raids done by INS. invariably, they are against companies who are paying illegals under the table. that means no s.s., no medicaid tax, no state or federal taxes paid on these employees. that means the govt is getting ripped off.
now, as for those working above the table? they pay in every tax you pay in, but unlike you, they never get anything back for it. they'll never draw s.s. benefits upon retirement, as they used a fake #. they can't apply for medicaid either, as they don't really exist in the system. yet they paid all that money, all those years-just like millions of others just like them. so, no, the govt doesn't mind that at all-these illegals you disparage so much are helping keep our social programs afloat. they're helping to keep local, state and the feds afloat. they pay in, and can never get back. they don't get on assistance, as that's a sure way to get the boot.
so, that all explains why there is not, and will not be, anything done regarding immigration. it would be too expensive. anyone granted citizenship would be eligible for everything you and i are eligible for-but the pay in wouldn't be any higher.

oh, and the states....they really don't care either, it's all window dressing.
any illegals az arrests will be back on the street. state can't deport them, and the feds won't do it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100624/..._take_our_jobs


and i just saw this article, which is related to the discussion in this thread.

You think he's passed Bush? Clearly you can't be that much of a partisan. Bush was wrapped up in the final eighth and Obama would have to sprout wings to get to him.

I agree with you that at this point Bush is considered a worse President. If you did a poll right now, I think more people would consider Bush a worse President than Obama.

I personally like Bush better than Obama but I think I am in the minority at this point.

Bush is a Tex Bred, Tex Trained , Tex Sired admittedly a bit lame on his left front.

Obama was dropped in Hawaii bred out of a Kenyan Sire, Seattle WA Mare , Indonesian trained and ran in Chicago before arriving in DC and has a nasty anti Israel habbit.

I take Bush in that race

It is still quite possible that Bush' legacy could totally change. I'm not saying that it will happen but if Iraq ends up being a thriving democracy in 20 years from now, history may end up judging Bush in a positive way. I'm not saying this will happen but I think it is possible.

Bush compared to Obama is a bad piss test compared to a fixed piss test IMO and Carter came in with blinks on, was gelded, and still couldn't help going over the outside rail at 6f or more out of the chute but at two turns he jumped the inside rail EVERYTIME! Consistently bad. Hostage bad.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/doe...ion-cost-jobs/


Does Immigration Cost Jobs?
Economists say immigration, legal or illegal, doesn't hurt American workers.
May 13, 2010

Summary
Do immigrants take American jobs? It’s a common refrain among those who want to tighten limits on legal immigration and deny a "path to citizenship" — which they call "amnesty" — to the millions of immigrants living in the U.S. illegally. There’s even a new Reclaim American Jobs Caucus in the House, with at least 41 members.

But most economists and other experts say there’s little to support the claim. Study after study has shown that immigrants grow the economy, expanding demand for goods and services that the foreign-born workers and their families consume, and thereby creating jobs. There is even broad agreement among economists that while immigrants may push down wages for some, the overall effect is to increase average wages for American-born workers.

I think they are neck and neck.. which is not saying much.

Seriously though, how has Obama been better than Bush? (& I thought Bush sucked) They are equally incompetant.. Obama just speaks better.

Stra-tee-gery

obama speaks better when he's got prepared remarks. ask him a question, and he becomes inarticulate just like bush. um, uh....er, um.

After Obama said he was a Sox fan, Dibble asked him who is his favorite player? Obama's answer was he likes the Cubs too. :zz:

BTW I can't wait for the FBI to release their interview with Obama in relation to Blago. OB says he and staff had no converstions with Blago concerning his vacant senate seat. Blago speaking on a wire tap says different. The truth should come out soon.

Agreed! I expect Rolling Stone to be all over this shortly :rolleyes:

Here's a start, "Emanuel, now Obama's chief of staff, wanted Blagojevich to know the list of Senate candidates "acceptable" to Obama, according to testimony Thursday in Blagojevich's corruption trial."

"Emanuel's talk with Harris with a new, diverse list of candidates came two days after Emanuel called Blagojevich friend and lobbyist John Wyma with a different message, according to Harris' testimony."

"Wyma had contact with Emanuel and then made the call on his behalf on Nov. 10 -- several weeks after he began cooperating with federal authorities and had been asked to wear a wire, which Wyma refused.

"The president-elect would be very pleased if you appointed Valerie and he would be, uh, thankful and appreciative" for an appointment, Harris said Wyma told him in a phone call.

That put the brakes on Blagojevich's hopes that he could win a Cabinet position or another high-ranking, high-paying appointment in exchange for Jarrett's appointment. Blagojevich had told Balanoff the week before that he wanted Obama to give him a Cabinet position, Harris said."

So is Harris committing perjury or did Obama lie once again to all of us?

BTW lying to the people is not a crime. Lying to an FBI agent is.

Naw, c'mon, that's not true in the least. Where does this stuff come from? There are multiple TV interviews where he's speaking entirely extemporaneously, for minutes on end, no notes, articulate and knowledgable.

Palin could run rings around even Bush, however.

Dell, do you recall this being in the news last year?

not true 'in the least'??

i've seen him stammer and stutter more than once, thanks very much. so, yes it is true. you not wanting something to be true doesn't automatically mean it's false.