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dellinger63 06-11-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 656810)
Or 10-year-olds riding ATV's or using power lawn mowers?

When they wander 3000 kilometers from home you might have a point. Nevermind being in the ocean.

Danzig 06-11-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 656810)
And it's found she's safe. Good news. Ship keel broken and demasted. She has heat and two weeks food, she'll be picked up.

I'm surprised so many here think age is the primary determinant of learned ability, skill and experience. Where was the outrage for Samantha Larson and Jessica Watson? Or 10-year-olds riding ATV's or using power lawn mowers?

i think any parent who allows a sixteen year old to travel around the world alone, regardless of means of transportation, is a nut. and other sailors have said there is no way she gained enough experience at her age to handle any and every disaster that could befall her at sea. i don't get the need to tackle something like that at that age. and no, ten year olds shouldn't be driving atv's. now, she may be a dammed precocious 16 year old, good for her. still disagree with them letting her make the attempt.

Riot 06-11-2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 656813)
Uhm because its the very vast ocean and no one is close by or maybe that its just stupid. Would you let your child hike to the South Pole by themselves?

Danger is relative to skill, ability, preparation, mental maturity. Another teenager just solo sailed the world a couple weeks ago. A teenager just climbed Everest.

Riot 06-11-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 656819)
i don't get the need to tackle something like that at that age.

I don't get the need to tackle that at any age!

dellinger63 06-11-2010 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 656821)
Danger is relative to skill, ability, preparation, mental maturity. Another teenager just solo sailed the world a couple weeks ago. A teenager just climbed Everest.

and neither could sign a contract, lease, medical release etc. etc. But then again I saw a 3yr old smoking and a 6yr old drinking recently so I may be a bit old fashioned. :wf

Honu 06-11-2010 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 656821)
Danger is relative to skill, ability, preparation, mental maturity. Another teenager just solo sailed the world a couple weeks ago. A teenager just climbed Everest.

The kid who climbed Everest wasnt alone and for the other parents who let their kid sail solo they are idiots too . You know I grew up on a farm and learned how to drive a tractor when I was 8 but I didnt do it alone , I learned how to ride a horse when I was 5 but I didnt do that alone either . I could run a drill press a lathe and form press when I was 12 but I didnt do that alone either. If their daughter would have died would you still think it was a great idea ? Usually I dont call people names on here but the masses are right , you are a nimrod.

Riot 06-11-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 656830)
The kid who climbed Everest wasnt alone and for the other parents who let their kid sail solo they are idiots too . You know I grew up on a farm and learned how to drive a tractor when I was 8 but I didnt do it alone , I learned how to ride a horse when I was 5 but I didnt do that alone either . I could run a drill press a lathe and form press when I was 12 but I didnt do that alone either. If their daughter would have died would you still think it was a great idea ? Usually I dont call people names on here but the masses are right , you are a nimrod.

I guess if daring to not share your opinion means someone is a nimrod, I'm far from the only one :p

It's interesting, the number of people here who are simply mentally incapable of disagreeing about subjects without changing the subject and hissing personal attacks at other posters. Geesh, you people must be deeply, lastingly unhappy with yourselves.

Honu 06-11-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 656835)
I guess if daring to not share your opinion means someone is a nimrod, I'm far from the only one :p

It's interesting, the number of people here who are simply mentally incapable of disagreeing about subjects without changing the subject and hissing personal attacks at other posters. Geesh, you people must be deeply, lastingly unhappy with yourselves.

Its not that but you insist that yours is the only opinon that is the correct one. For the record Im very hoppy with myself :).

Patrick333 06-12-2010 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 656506)
16 year old kids can barely drive a car, and these parents allow their daughter to sail, alone, around the world. brilliant.

Well said. I wondered the same thing myself.

Danzig 06-12-2010 07:19 AM

i've raised three kids who seem bright and intelligent enough. but i still cringed when two took a road trip to connecticut and back. can't imagine them going round the world like that--alone! that's the main thing...all alone in that huge expanse of water. that vastness would be enough to bring a seasoned sailor to their wits end. hell, i raised my kids with a lot of knowledge of history, including llewelyn the great who went to recapture his welsh lands at the age of thirteen-but even he had help.

Riot 06-12-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 656848)
Its not that but you insist that yours is the only opinon that is the correct one. .

No, I don't, actually.

Nice try, but your behaviour is not my fault :)

Riot 06-12-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 656880)
i've raised three kids who seem bright and intelligent enough. but i still cringed when two took a road trip to connecticut and back. can't imagine them going round the world like that--alone! that's the main thing...all alone in that huge expanse of water.

That's your mommy genes at full throttle ;) :tro:

Honu 06-12-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 657055)
No, I don't, actually.

Nice try, but your behaviour is not my fault :)

LOL , you really are fabulous and yes you do.

GBBob 06-12-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 656848)
Its not that but you insist that yours is the only opinon that is the correct one. For the record Im very hoppy with myself :).

First..I agree that she shouldn't be sailing around the world..Much like those nimrods who said their son was in that balloon, it's more about themselves than their child.

BUT....To come down on Riot for saying her opinion is the only correct one when this forum is littered with the exact same know it alls posting as god fearing, Obama bashing, kool aid (Fox, Beck, Rush,etc) drinking right wing lemmings is PKB.

And..I know you aren't one of the above, but..

Honu 06-12-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 657167)
First..I agree that she shouldn't be sailing around the world..Much like those nimrods who said their son was in that balloon, it's more about themselves than their child.

BUT....To come down on Riot for saying her opinion is the only correct one when this forum is littered with the exact same know it alls posting as god fearing, Obama bashing, kool aid (Fox, Beck, Rush,etc) drinking right wing lemmings is PKB.

And..I know you aren't one of the above, but..

Well I might be one but usually I keep it to myself I really do for the most refrain from name calling. Last night my inside voice came out , my bad .

GBBob 06-12-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 657171)
Well I might be one but usually I keep it to myself I really do for the most refrain from name calling. Last night my inside voice came out , my bad .

;)

golfer 06-14-2010 05:44 AM

Reality TV, that's what it's about.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...BcBCM5v3s23ULK

joeydb 06-14-2010 06:18 AM

Stories like this are exactly why God invented the process of "Natural Selection."

How is this different from those idiots who drive through an active railroad crossing signal?

Antitrust32 06-14-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 656810)
And it's found she's safe. Good news. Ship keel broken and demasted. She has heat and two weeks food, she'll be picked up.

I'm surprised so many here think age is the primary determinant of learned ability, skill and experience. Where was the outrage for Samantha Larson and Jessica Watson? Or 10-year-olds riding ATV's or using power lawn mowers?

there is tons of outrage against that, if you are a responsible person. ATV's kill so many kids under 18. I didnt have any outrage for Larson or Watson cause I've never heard of them until this issue. You really think its responsible to let a 16 year old sail around the world... and go into Southern Hemi waters where the most accomplished sailors have said that only an idiot sails through the southern hemi in the winter?

Antitrust32 06-14-2010 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 656835)
I guess if daring to not share your opinion means someone is a nimrod, I'm far from the only one :p

It's interesting, the number of people here who are simply mentally incapable of disagreeing about subjects without changing the subject and hissing personal attacks at other posters. Geesh, you people must be deeply, lastingly unhappy with yourselves.

oh the irony. You and Booth Operator should make a baby. You are both the queens of Irony.


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