You're talking about the Independents, and OBA will get those again. It's more about your Party than anything else. It's too extreme. Somebody like the guy who won Jersey? He can't get the Repub nomination, and if you try a Mormon, you'll get owned. This B.P. THING HURTS YOU WITH INDEPENDENTS.

this is where you have to love the democrats and republicans. the last two stooges screwed it up and the new ones are continuing "the tradition".....lol. then both parties try to give the stupid, general public the perception that they are running things. yet, debacle after debacle keeps coming forward......the banks, oil companies (leaks), the wars. no, the political class is not owned by corporations they are doing diligent work for the voters out there. the republicans are better.....wait they messed it up.......the democrats are better.......oh, here we go again. the public goes for one than the other, insuring power never changes and can be bought and sold. its your turn....8 years later....its your turn. yeah, one party is better than the other(when its their turn) and they are all incompetent by design because they actually control nothing. but, keep up your liberal, conservative media controlled banter.....its gotten us this far....lol...lol...lol

You're so above it all.

no it doesnt

Yes, your lil message is always that private industry runs things soooooo much better than the Gov't ever could. Here we see private industry fail miserably, and lie repeatedly. Then, we see Conservatives blame the Gov't (an entity they think shouldn't even be hardly around at all.) That is about as hypocritical as it gets. This belief, that private industry needs very little oversight, is shockingly irresponsible. Putting people's Social Security money into the Stock Market would have also been shockingly irresponsible. I don't expect Conservatives (like yourself) to be able to accept these deficiencies. Independents do.

They are very different, and the results are different ( a Republican President wouldn't have ever passed a healthcare bill at all.) The only reason you don't see the results being far different is because neither party wants to allow the other to get what it wants done. That does not mean they have the same ideology. I don't know how to get that through to a person so thick. I have failed each time I've tried. I disagree with Conservatives, but they will never be as stupid as someone who thinks there is very little difference between the two parties' ideology. You're dumber than a Bush.

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