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Linny 05-12-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 646616)
Even someone who is anti-Dubai cannot deny that World Cup night is far, far more of a World Championship than the Breeders' Cup.

NT

Definately more "world" but not sure about "championship." There is no doubt that they have a far greater international representation on the DWC card than the BC. Of course they have designed a 3 month long event to lead up to it.
For most of the less well off racing nations, where purses are very small (most of So. America, S. Africa, much of Europe) nominatig to the BC is prohibitively expensive. What are the odds that a foal born in Brazil this Oct will one day be anywhere near the BC? Very small. Now factor in that major G1 races are run in some places for the equivalent of about $50k and the fact that the sire of the foal is not BC nominated, it's not worth it to nominate. OTOH, if he turn out to be a decent runner he can go to Dubai for the Carnival, run for US quality purses and the it costs nothing to enter. If he gets invited to the big races on WC night, there are no nomination and supplemental fees.
Comparing Dubai to the BC is apples to oranges.

As for the Cup, while I agree that the concept was designed as a travelling event na small part of me thinks leaving it at SA might be good. If the BC becomes a Cali event, maybe NY can promote their big fall races as the championship events they once were.

Cannon Shell 05-12-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 646618)
Hey I'm no great Dubai proponent and where they're located geographically is surely quite helpful but they had horses from at least five continents run on World Cup night last year.

If you want to say that the Sheikh is totally over the top and the thing is overblown, I'd agree, but the BC is in no position to dispute with the DRC who hosts a "World Championship."

NT

Who gives a damn who is more "worldly"? The Dubai races are in March, The BC is Nov. There is no competition between the two. It is stupid of them to even bring it up.

Cannon Shell 05-12-2010 02:41 PM

Honestly it is just another example of those in power in this business having a total disconnect from their customers and simply not understanding what they are. The entire "World championship" naming thing was a gimmick for TV (ESPN specifically) to promote. It appears these people have fallen for their own trick. And people wonder why things are so screwed up in this business....

NTamm1215 05-12-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 646781)
Who gives a damn who is more "worldly"? The Dubai races are in March, The BC is Nov. There is no competition between the two. It is stupid of them to even bring it up.

I agree with you and the initiative is dumb. However, if they're foolish enough to bring up Dubai, they need to recognize that there's no comparison between the two.

NT

Cannon Shell 05-12-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 646831)
I agree with you and the initiative is dumb. However, if they're foolish enough to bring up Dubai, they need to recognize that there's no comparison between the two.

NT

You just assume it is a bs thing that they are using to cloak the real intention for the perm site. But then you realize this is horseracing and they may just be that dumb


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