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Riot 06-16-2010 10:12 PM

Alex Jones called. It's time. Quit your job, sell everything you own, and wait in the woods for the others.

Patrick333 06-20-2010 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 658724)
The former Honolulu elections clerk says Obama was not born in Hawaii and has no birth certificate from any hospital in Hawaii.

"In my professional opinion, [Obama] definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165633

This will never go away until Obama address's it himself. But he doesn't really care, he got what he wanted.

dalakhani 06-20-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick333 (Post 659853)
This will never go away until Obama address's it himself. But he doesn't really care, he got what he wanted.

I agree, especially when reputable publications such as the one Rupert linked are printing these stories. The truth is finally coming out!

Next we are going to find out that his mom was really the child of Russian spies. He certainly will need to address that as well.

Danzig 06-20-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick333 (Post 659853)
This will never go away until Obama address's it himself. But he doesn't really care, he got what he wanted.


lol
he doesn't care because it's a ridiculous story, one not worth addressing. and if he did, there are those who would just call him a liar and keep claiming there's something to it.

Rupert Pupkin 06-20-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 659921)
lol
he doesn't care because it's a ridiculous story, one not worth addressing. and if he did, there are those who would just call him a liar and keep claiming there's something to it.

The former Honolulu elections clerk says Obama definitely was not born in Hawaii. I guess that's a ridiculous story.

You would definitely know better than the Honolulu elections clerk.

I can't tell you for a 100% fact that he wasn't born in Hawaii. But there is certainly evidence that he wasn't.


From the Honolulu elections clerk: "There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government in Hawaii knows this."

"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

How do you explain this Danzig?

Riot 06-20-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 659971)
"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

If you think that an elections clerk has access to the above, I have some islands I'd like to sell you. The man is a liar

Edit: actually, sounds delusionally crazy.

Danzig 06-20-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 659971)
The former Honolulu elections clerk says Obama definitely was not born in Hawaii. I guess that's a ridiculous story.

You would definitely know better than the Honolulu elections clerk.

I can't tell you for a 100% fact that he wasn't born in Hawaii. But there is certainly evidence that he wasn't.


From the Honolulu elections clerk: "There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government in Hawaii knows this."

"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

How do you explain this Danzig?

tell you what. you find me and everyone concrete proof of him being born outside the u.s., and i'll tell you that you're right. until then, i couldn't care less what some guy in ha says, that's completely opposite of what every one else involved has said.

brianwspencer 06-20-2010 11:09 PM

LOL I'm so glad that after the "truthers" got lumped in with the left in general, that the "birthers" have their place on the right....only the mainstream right seems to embrace them, whereas the mainstream left wants nothing to do with the "truthers."

Keep at it Rupert....this is definitely where you want to hit from a credibility standpoint...you've got lots on your side here.

No, really. PLEASE keep at it. Really. Please!

Rupert Pupkin 06-21-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 660039)
LOL I'm so glad that after the "truthers" got lumped in with the left in general, that the "birthers" have their place on the right....only the mainstream right seems to embrace them, whereas the mainstream left wants nothing to do with the "truthers."

Keep at it Rupert....this is definitely where you want to hit from a credibility standpoint...you've got lots on your side here.

No, really. PLEASE keep at it. Really. Please!

You would have to be a fool to not at least have some doubt about where he was born. He refuses to show his birth certificate. Not only that, he is spending millions of dollars on lawyers to keep his birth certificate hidden. In addition, there are all kinds of records that could shed light on where he was born that he refuses to release.

There is no evidence that he was born in Hawaii. There is none. If you choose to believe that he was born there just because that is the mainstream opinion, that is fine with me. I'm sure you would have been one of the guys that argued the Earth was flat even after evidence started to come out that it was round.

At least I can give you guys reasons why I think he wasn't born in Hawaii. I have yet to hear any reasons as to why you guys think he was born in Hawaii. All you can say is that "birthers are crazy" and that type of thing but you don't have any evidence to support your point of view.

Danzig 06-21-2010 06:15 AM

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

GBBob 06-21-2010 06:40 AM

So?...

lol


:D

Danzig 06-21-2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 660060)
So?...

lol


:D


thing is, i've posted that link before to snopes...yet this keeps coming up. it's ridiculous. i'm no barack fan, but this is ridiculous. his critics need to stick to legitimate grievances.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-21-2010 07:20 AM

riot

'Edit: actually, sounds delusionally crazy'

pot=kettle:rolleyes:

mrs prez having a great time saving the fat kids and getting front row at game 7 of the nba finals..what oil?

Antitrust32 06-21-2010 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 659971)
The former Honolulu elections clerk says Obama definitely was not born in Hawaii. I guess that's a ridiculous story.

You would definitely know better than the Honolulu elections clerk.

I can't tell you for a 100% fact that he wasn't born in Hawaii. But there is certainly evidence that he wasn't.


From the Honolulu elections clerk: "There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government in Hawaii knows this."

"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

How do you explain this Danzig?



this is one of the most stupid, unbelievable, ridiculous "things" that the Republicans have EVER attached themselves with.. Even more stupid than G.W Bush!!

Any republican who believes this crap, should put their tin foil hat on, go stand out in a thunderstorm and STFU.

Antitrust32 06-21-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 660049)
You would have to be a fool to not at least have some doubt about where he was born. He refuses to show his birth certificate. Not only that, he is spending millions of dollars on lawyers to keep his birth certificate hidden. In addition, there are all kinds of records that could shed light on where he was born that he refuses to release.

There is no evidence that he was born in Hawaii. There is none. If you choose to believe that he was born there just because that is the mainstream opinion, that is fine with me. I'm sure you would have been one of the guys that argued the Earth was flat even after evidence started to come out that it was round.

At least I can give you guys reasons why I think he wasn't born in Hawaii. I have yet to hear any reasons as to why you guys think he was born in Hawaii. All you can say is that "birthers are crazy" and that type of thing but you don't have any evidence to support your point of view.


actually the opposite.. you have to be a COMPLETE fool to buy into this stuff.

But from someone who compared Gay rights to the PGA tour, it doesnt surprise me.

notyep59 06-21-2010 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 660049)
You would have to be a fool to not at least have some doubt about where he was born. He refuses to show his birth certificate. Not only that, he is spending millions of dollars on lawyers to keep his birth certificate hidden. In addition, there are all kinds of records that could shed light on where he was born that he refuses to release.

There is no evidence that he was born in Hawaii. There is none. If you choose to believe that he was born there just because that is the mainstream opinion, that is fine with me. I'm sure you would have been one of the guys that argued the Earth was flat even after evidence started to come out that it was round.

At least I can give you guys reasons why I think he wasn't born in Hawaii. I have yet to hear any reasons as to why you guys think he was born in Hawaii. All you can say is that "birthers are crazy" and that type of thing but you don't have any evidence to support your point of view.

Here is my reason why I think he was born in Hawaii............





HE'S PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

brianwspencer 06-21-2010 08:57 AM

Lol, that's always my favorite part of it all -- that in this wild conspiracy theory we'd have to be "fools" to not at least think about, we are being asked to believe that this giant master plan to infiltrate the Presidency of the United States with a non-American started in 1961!

They knew this would be happening nearly 50 years later, so they had that bit run in the newspaper, likely to just cover all their bases in case 50 years down the road, their child who was not born in the United States was capable enough to get himself elected President.

Yes. Yes. The true fools are the ones who think that's ridiculous. :zz:

Rupert Pupkin 06-21-2010 12:34 PM

Everyone knows about The Ceritification of Live Birth. That does not prove he was born in Hawaii. The Certification of Live Birth was available to children not born in Hawaii.

I do consider the newspaper announcements to be fairly compelling evidence that he was in fact born in Hawaii. I think that is pretty strong evidence.

In terms of a few people saying that they have seen the born cetificate, I am somewhat skeptical. I'm not saying that it's not true. I'm just saying that I'm skeptical. It is conceivably that they could be lying.

If they really had the birth certificate, I would certainly think they would just release it rather than spending millions of dollars on lawyers to fight its release. That is hardly a crazy opinion.

Rupert Pupkin 06-21-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 660076)
actually the opposite.. you have to be a COMPLETE fool to buy into this stuff.

But from someone who compared Gay rights to the PGA tour, it doesnt surprise me.

The thing about the PGA Tour was an analogy. Have you ever heard of an analogy? An analogy is not about two identical things. It's about two totally different things that have similarities. That is why it's called an analogy.

brianwspencer 06-21-2010 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 660143)
If they really had the birth certificate, I would certainly think they would just release it rather than spending millions of dollars on lawyers to fight its release. That is hardly a crazy opinion.

I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.


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