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fpsoxfan 05-02-2010 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 643045)
I can't see Pletch running Aikenite in there against SS.
was just thinking the same thing.

lemoncrush 05-02-2010 02:01 PM
What about Drosselmeyer?

Interesting to see if Winstar decides to run 2 in that race, or points Drosselmeyer elsewhere.

There's no Peter Pan this year, right? So..unless you go in the Dwyer, there's not a lot of options.

skippy3481 05-02-2010 02:40 PM
U would think ice box would be ideally suited to the belmont...

Buffymommy 05-02-2010 03:10 PM
Guessing that Zito may run Jackson Bend in Preakness and put Ice Box in the Belmont. Ice Box is going to love that Belmont stretch. Won't get 11-1 on him in the Belmont.

NTamm1215 05-02-2010 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Buffymommy (Post 643106)
Guessing that Zito may run Jackson Bend in Preakness and put Ice Box in the Belmont. Ice Box is going to love that Belmont stretch. Won't get 11-1 on him in the Belmont.
Don't mean to burst your bubble but the stretch at Belmont is shorter than Churchill by nearly 150 feet. The turns at Belmont are what go on forever.

NT

Buffymommy 05-02-2010 03:35 PM
Now you have done it. My bubble is burst. I am so sad now. (I meant he will like the extra quarter mile.) Is that better? :)

Coach Pants 05-02-2010 03:36 PM
Seems like he's the sucker horse now. That was a brutal trip and might take the starch out of him for a month or two. No way I take 3-1 or less on him in the Belmont.

tjfla 05-02-2010 03:46 PM
Ya Ice Box will be the heavy fave at Belmont. The horse looked like he could run forever

tjfla 05-02-2010 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 643007)
Aikenite (Todd Pletcher)
A Little Warm (Tony Dutrow)
Bushwhacked (Jonathan Sheppard)
Caracortado (Mike Machowsky)
Dublin (D. Wayne Lukas)
Hurricane Ike (John Sadler)
Jackson Bend (Nick Zito)
Lookin At Lucky (Bob Baffert)
Paddy O Prado (Dale Romans)
Pleasant Prince (Wesley Ward)
Schoolyard Dreams (Derek Ryan)
Super Saver (Todd Pletcher)
Turf Melody (Graham Motion)
What the max # of horses that can run?

Coach Pants 05-02-2010 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 643124)
Ya Ice Box will be the heavy fave at Belmont. The horse looked like he could run forever
It's Denis of Cork 2: Electric Boogaloo

Port Conway Lane 05-02-2010 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 643125)
What the max # of horses that can run?
14 sounds familiar but I'm not positive

NTamm1215 05-02-2010 03:56 PM
If you like Ice Box and they plan to skip the Preakness you ought to cheer heartily for Super Saver to win impressively in Baltimore. Then Ice Box will be a larger price, nowhere near 11-1, but he'll offer a bit more value.

NT

Cannon Shell 05-02-2010 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 643045)
I can't see Pletch running Aikenite in there against SS.
So what does he tell Dogwood? Sorry I have the Derby winner, you can't run?

Cannon Shell 05-02-2010 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 643134)
If you like Ice Box and they plan to skip the Preakness you ought to cheer heartily for Super Saver to win impressively in Baltimore. Then Ice Box will be a larger price, nowhere near 11-1, but he'll offer a bit more value.

NT
While I thought ice box clearly ran the best race yesterday, I am not that enthused about his prospects moving forward as he seemingly is the type that needs pace help and luck to be successful.

ateamstupid 05-02-2010 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 643126)
It's Denis of Cork 2: Electric Boogaloo
:tro: too true.

Danzig 05-02-2010 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 643138)
While I thought ice box clearly ran the best race yesterday, I am not that enthused about his prospects moving forward as he seemingly is the type that needs pace help and luck to be successful.
i agree. been figuring everyone will jump on his bandwagon now. people tend to look to closers for whatever reason in the belmont, when in fact speed and stalker types excel in this race. longer distances may well dull his late kick, and if the pace isn't right, he won't get there. i picked him for yesterday because i thought there was plenty of speed up front for him to close into. it's not always the case.

Buffymommy 05-02-2010 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 643126)
It's Denis of Cork 2: Electric Boogaloo
Just a side note, as a YOUNG kid I actually liked that movie. I think it is so funny that it gets made fun of so much now. (It did back then too but I was too young to get it.)

Buffymommy 05-02-2010 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 643140)
i agree. been figuring everyone will jump on his bandwagon now. people tend to look to closers for whatever reason in the belmont, when in fact speed and stalker types excel in this race. longer distances may well dull his late kick, and if the pace isn't right, he won't get there. i picked him for yesterday because i thought there was plenty of speed up front for him to close into. it's not always the case.
It is going to give us a better price on a horse who doesn't need the pace up front. :)

CSC 05-02-2010 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 642997)
their record after ovie became captain was gaudy, so i disagree about more flash than substance. as for crosby, not a fan. he's talented alright. but i do think some tend to forget that this is a team sport. pens without malkin faded a bit during the regular season.
caps had one hell of a year, maybe next year they'll have a better post-season.

funny tho, ovechkin/crosby is almost like zenyatta/rachel. someone mentions one, only a matter of time before the other comes up.
It's no different than in other sports, you need a championship to elevate yourself to superstar status. Not unlike Pletcher getting his 1st derby, Frankel with his BC...There are the Tom Brady's, Gretzky's and Crosby's that are associated with winning, until Ovie shows he can lift his team over the hump, he will always have that tag of being a great individual player that can win during the season but can he win the big game?

Danzig 05-02-2010 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 643160)
It's no different than in other sports, you need a championship to elevate yourself to superstar status. Not unlike Pletcher getting his 1st derby, Frankel with his BC...There are the Tom Brady's, Gretzky's and Crosby's that are associated with winning, until Ovie shows he can lift his team over the hump, he will always have that tag of being a great individual player that can win during the season but can he win the big game?

so, if you really believe that, doug williams or mark rypien is a better QB than dan marino???


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