i'd trade him. wouldn't surprise me one bit if they did that.

They are in an awful position. I would imagine Ben might actually get booed at Heinz field.

How do you get fair value for Ben Roethlisberger? This is unprecedented.

Roethlisberger wont be traded nor will he be booed in Pitt...unless they start losing...

The booing part we will have to see. As for the trading part, I doubt he is traded but they are definitely listening.

What if Tiger Woods was a Steeler?

He'd fit in with a great number of other NFL players that cheat on their wives. Hell, he already fits in with a number of PGA Tour players that cheat on their wives.

I have no idea why you continue to defend Tiger. It is more than cheating. Some of these women were prostitutes. There were dozens of them. Meanwhile he tries to sell a wholesome image. No thanks.

what tiger did was pretty low, but at least he found willing women. and apparently there are plenty out there, gives the rest of us a bad name.

You seriously think Steeler fans are gonna boo him? You think come September they will give a damn about all this? Like I said if they are winning noone will care. If they arent he would get booed anyway.

What he did was incredibly wrong. I'm not defending him, but I do believe he is truly sick and needs help. I did a lot of stupid, sh*tty and very hurtful things to people I loved dearly before I sobered up. Am I saying Tiger is a sex addict? Not my place to judge. But he sure has displayed classic signs of one. Like I said in the other thread, anyone that thinks they can judge Tiger and say that he isn't a sex addict, well, they are just foolish and arrogant. Unless people are inside his brain and understand his thinking and his thought processs when it comes to this behavior, they really have no clue as to what they are discussing. It just makes some people feel better or morally superior to just flippantly judge others based on addictive behavior, all the while dismissing them as not really being an addict.

I got news for you Rand, addicts do not think like non-addicts.

I honestly dont remember Tiger ever selling a wholesome image. When was his wife or kids ever used in anny ad or promotions?

He cheated on his old lady with a bunch of ho's. He didnt rape anyone. He didnt kill anyone. He didnt commit any crimes. Feel free to not like him or think he is a hypocrite or scumbag. But how is it more than cheating?

Why is his behavior any of our business?

The difference is I have sympathy for people who deal with alcoholism and drug addiction and obviously that is the root for some of the behaviors you dealt with. Since I don't think sex addiction is similar to those I think it actually is insulting to real addictions and their ramifications.

Thats just it, it isn't. He could screw 100 women at once or be celibate the rest of his life...either way, it doesn't affect me.

what about a gambling addict?

I definitely think gambling is addictive and can be destructive.

I am not a big "sex addict" believer but considering the lengths that people go to get it, it has to be at least in some cases to be addictive and destructive. Doesnt that fit Tiger to a tee? (pardon the pun)

Wow Obama is normal.

So you sexually assaulted bar sluts? :D:wf

You know Dr. Drew has tried contacting Rapelisberger.

:D