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asudevil 04-04-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 632503)
Even if that hole wouldnt have tightened up where the heck did Gomez think he was going , and secondly he was already more than 3/4 of the way up in there he actually put himself and his horse in more danger by checking and pulling out than if he would have just let his horse keep moving. I think Gomez saw that he had no where to go because there was a horse right on front of him so instead of putting the blame on himself for driving up into a switch he checks the head off his horse and puts the blame on Victor.

Sounds like your quite fond of Garret. You guys hang out at clocker's corner?

KirisClown 04-04-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 632540)
Baffert also used a lot of West Coast riders when his horses ran on the East Coast. Except for Congaree, I don't know if Bailey rode too many horses for Baffert in SoCal.

He rode Real Quiet in the 99 Hollywood Gold Cup...Composure in a couple of Grade Is in 03, Flame Thrower, Rojo Toro etc..

johnny pinwheel 04-04-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scat daddy (Post 632440)
Bailey the best the past 30 years?? Puhhllleezz he could not handle the Monkey Man's jock on his best day......

Scat OUT

the monkey was the man , so was the ant man. i'd take either one over bailey in the last 30 years. i still remember when antley won 9 races in one day and he did not get chocolate bars like bailey got. he was great on the turf and brought in horses at a price. i'll never forget when he saved charismatic at the belmont finish. the horse would of won the triple crown if not for breaking his leg. they were saying he was washed up when he should of won the thing.

geeker2 04-04-2010 09:21 PM

Chris McCarron :$:

blackthroatedwind 04-04-2010 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel (Post 632568)
the monkey was the man , so was the ant man. i'd take either one over bailey in the last 30 years. i still remember when antley won 9 races in one day and he did not get chocolate bars like bailey got. he was great on the turf and brought in horses at a price. i'll never forget when he saved charismatic at the belmont finish. the horse would of won the triple crown if not for breaking his leg. they were saying he was washed up when he should of won the thing.

You do remember that Antley gave Charismatic a HORRENDOUS ride that day?

He was a terrific rider....but not in that race.

Honu 04-04-2010 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 632564)
Sounds like your quite fond of Garret. You guys hang out at clocker's corner?

Uhm , I dont get ya .

v j stauffer 04-05-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 632520)
Pat Day

good grief

Sharp post

v j stauffer 04-05-2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown (Post 632565)
He rode Real Quiet in the 99 Hollywood Gold Cup...Composure in a couple of Grade Is in 03, Flame Thrower, Rojo Toro etc..

During

KirisClown 04-05-2010 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 632613)
During

Good call, almost forgot about him..

RolloTomasi 04-05-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown (Post 632615)
Good call, almost forgot about him..

He also helped ruin Vindication.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-05-2010 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 632503)
Even if that hole wouldnt have tightened up where the heck did Gomez think he was going , and secondly he was already more than 3/4 of the way up in there he actually put himself and his horse in more danger by checking and pulling out than if he would have just let his horse keep moving. I think Gomez saw that he had no where to go because there was a horse right on front of him so instead of putting the blame on himself for driving up into a switch he checks the head off his horse and puts the blame on Victor.

I really think the 2 Puhich horses were in the race to try to get the chalk blocked, and sealed in. Both jocks look to have 1 thing on their mind. The 8 comes right over on top of LAL N' CARACORTADO (and Talamo drifts out a little about the same time.) Then, the other Puhich horse seals them inside. It's a very weird race, because I think some people had odd goals in the race. We've all seen Gomez get stuck inside on chalk. It's still his greatest weakness. This used to happen even more often with him.

2Hot4TV 04-05-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 632513)
I think you would probably say Stevens was his guy if any one person was. Baffert always seems to spread around his horses and jockeys seem to fall in and out of favor with him.

Still the same way today.

johnny pinwheel 04-05-2010 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 632589)
You do remember that Antley gave Charismatic a HORRENDOUS ride that day?

He was a terrific rider....but not in that race.

yeah, he got caught up in the pace and wide. it seems like the pattern when the triple crown is on the line. santos gave lemon drop a perfect belmont like trip. it was not his best ride but many jockeys have had a case of nerves in that race. day in and day out he was the best though. charismatic was just one of many, many horses he rode that alot of handicappers would say did not have a chance until after the race. following east coast racing and mostly NY, i think he may of been the best rider in my lifetime so far.


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