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Danzig 03-10-2010 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I wish this country could back a strong libertarian president. I bet most would be behind the idea's.

You going to tampa on a sat or sun? I have to work mon - fri (well DT & work LOL)



planning a trip to the classic mile saturday, and then tampa on sunday. caps saturday night.

Danzig 03-10-2010 08:26 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100310/...AtZ2ZrcG9sbG9i


AP-GfK Poll: Obama more popular than Congress

WASHINGTON – Americans have come to detest Congress ever more deeply as it nears the end of a nasty fight over health care. But more than half still back President Barack Obama, a bright spot for a Democratic Party counting on its leader to help stave off expected losses in elections this fall.

The latest Associated Press-GfK poll found that fewer people approve of Congress than at any point in Obama's presidency. Support has dropped significantly since January to a dismal 22 percent as the health care debate has roiled Capitol Hill. Neither Republicans nor Democrats are safe; half of all people say they want to fire their congressman.



Obama's overall standing hasn't really moved since January. Neither have his ratings on health care and the economy.

By comparison, Congress' approval rating has dropped 10 percentage points since January, perhaps an indication that people are blaming lawmakers more than the president for gridlock that has paralyzed Washington on a host of fronts

Antitrust32 03-10-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
planning a trip to the classic mile saturday, and then tampa on sunday. caps saturday night.


sounds great.. i go out to the classic mile fairly often.

Nascar1966 03-10-2010 07:01 PM

I was scored as a libertarian.

dellinger63 03-10-2010 07:18 PM

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%.

According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...


Libertarian

rpncaine 03-10-2010 07:53 PM

My score was identical to yours. Wish the Libs could field a decent candidate. Might shake things up a little.

SOREHOOF 03-11-2010 06:55 PM

PERSONAL 80%
ECONOMIC 80%
Libertarian.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100310/...AtZ2ZrcG9sbG9i


AP-GfK Poll: Obama more popular than Congress

WASHINGTON – Americans have come to detest Congress ever more deeply as it nears the end of a nasty fight over health care. But more than half still back President Barack Obama, a bright spot for a Democratic Party counting on its leader to help stave off expected losses in elections this fall.

The latest Associated Press-GfK poll found that fewer people approve of Congress than at any point in Obama's presidency. Support has dropped significantly since January to a dismal 22 percent as the health care debate has roiled Capitol Hill. Neither Republicans nor Democrats are safe; half of all people say they want to fire their congressman.



Obama's overall standing hasn't really moved since January. Neither have his ratings on health care and the economy.

By comparison, Congress' approval rating has dropped 10 percentage points since January, perhaps an indication that people are blaming lawmakers more than the president for gridlock that has paralyzed Washington on a host of fronts

Cannon shell poll: Osama more popular than Congress

SCUDSBROTHER 03-11-2010 08:08 PM

Seems like the poll is not too good at separating Orange County Ca. (money) Republicans from Libertarians. Libertarians would be against these wars in both Iraq, and Afghanistan. They'd be pro-choice. They'd want to get rid of Social Security, and Medicare. I don't think they'd want to make insurance companies stop dropping sick people etc. They'd be against providing even emergency care to the poor. There are against public schooling. They might even be against having public fire departments. In that Mississippi Prom thing, they would be on the side of the Lesbian couple. I highly doubt there are that many people on here that are willing to agree to all this.

ARyan 03-12-2010 10:50 AM

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%.

Libertarian.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-12-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Cannon shell poll: Osama more popular than Congress

i think its the other way around

dellinger63 03-12-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Libertarians would be against these wars in both Iraq, and Afghanistan. .

not sure of that one. If we went in for the terrorists I'd say a libertarian would say it's a form of self-protection

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They'd be pro-choice..

Yes it's a woman's decision

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They'd want to get rid of Social Security, and Medicare. .

yes, yes though will we need a weaning program

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I don't think they'd want to make insurance companies stop dropping sick people etc. They'd be against providing even emergency care to the poor. .

huh?

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There are against public schooling. .

in its current condition? I'll go with that

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
They might even be against having public fire departments. .

Might even have a few volunteer Depts.

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
In that Mississippi Prom thing, they would be on the side of the Lesbian couple. .

Yes

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I highly doubt there are that many people on here that are willing to agree to all this.


don't agree with all you present as the libertarian party, but I still agreed with most. :)

cabvmd 03-12-2010 11:54 AM

I had Personal 90% and Economic 90%
A Libertarian

Ii have read a lot about Thos. Jefferson as he used to sign his name.
I also read a few of Mark Twain's biographies and some of Will Rodgers writings.

If we do not read history correctly, we are bound to repeat it perpetually.

Read these quotes


"It has been said, the greatest volume of sheer brain power in the White House occurred one evening when Jefferson dined alone." -John Kennedy

HOW DID JEFFERSON KNOW?

Especially, read the last quote from 1802.




When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.
Thomas Jefferson

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.'

'If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.'
-Mark Twain



























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Danzig 03-12-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Seems like the poll is not too good at separating Orange County Ca. (money) Republicans from Libertarians. Libertarians would be against these wars in both Iraq, and Afghanistan. check They'd be pro-choice. checkThey'd want to get rid of Social Security, and Medicare. I don't think they'd want to make insurance companies stop dropping sick people etc. wrong They'd be against providing even emergency care to the poor. not in my case There are against public schooling. nope They might even be against having public fire departments. :rolleyes: In that Mississippi Prom thing, they would be on the side of the Lesbian couple. check I highly doubt there are that many people on here that are willing to agree to all this.


that's why labelling isn't accurate. but it's not realy a good quiz anyway. fast, but not detailed enough.

or maybe i'm not as much a libertarian as they say?

SCUDSBROTHER 03-12-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
not sure of that one. If we went in for the terrorists I'd say a libertarian would say it's a form of self-protection



Yes it's a woman's decision



yes, yes though will we need a weaning program



huh?



in its current condition? I'll go with that



Might even have a few volunteer Depts.



Yes




don't agree with all you present as the libertarian party, but I still agreed with most. :)

When asked in a poll about troop levels in Afghanistan, 69% of Libertarian responders voted for :
I believe we should follow a Libertarian non-interventionist foreign policy, and start withdrawing troops from Afghanistan.

The paragraph below is what these freaks have in their education platform (you decipher this sht, but I think they are against having public schools.)_

"Education, like any other service, is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Schools should be managed locally to achieve greater accountability and parental involvement. Recognizing that the education of children is inextricably linked to moral values, we would return authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government. In particular, parents should have control of and responsibility for all funds expended for their children's education."


As far as the E.R. care for the poor goes, THE PARAGRAPH BELOW IS THEIR PLATFORM. If you're well off, you get healthcare, and if you're poor, then you don't.


We favor restoring and reviving a free market health care system. We recognize the freedom of individuals to determine the level of health insurance they want, the level of health care they want, the care providers they want, the medicines and treatments they will use and all other aspects of their medical care, including end-of-life decisions.


This party is for the cheapest human waste produced. The reason they don't want to send forces to other countries is not because they care about preserving life, they are simply too cheap to care about whatever the reason is that we are sending forces. I am against sending forces there, because I don't think it will work. To me, the problem is Islam, and not just a patch of Muslims. We can't kill enough Muslims to solve anything. More groups will pop up, and take their place. All we can do is keep them from coming into civilized countries.

SOREHOOF 03-12-2010 06:18 PM

That's where private charity comes in. Can you imagine if all of the money that is spent on elections and re-elections, lobbying, payoffs, pork, etc. was spent for all of the social programs the left is pushing? There would be no need for socialized anything, or raising taxes. The poor would be taken care of by people like you and me. Let's not wait around for the rich, or the politicians to take care of it.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-12-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
That's where private charity comes in. Can you imagine if all of the money that is spent on elections and re-elections, lobbying, payoffs, pork, etc. was spent for all of the social programs the left is pushing? There would be no need for socialized anything, or raising taxes. The poor would be taken care of by people like you and me. Let's not wait around for the rich, or the politicians to take care of it.

Well, if people got paid what they deserve, then you wouldn't even need much charity involved. You gunna live in reality, or this fantasyland?

geeker2 03-12-2010 11:07 PM

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%.

According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...

LIBERTARIANS

SOREHOOF 03-13-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well, if people got paid what they deserve, then you wouldn't even need much charity involved. You gunna live in reality, or this fantasyland?

I'm sick of people who won't work getting paid way more than they deserve. Too many people scam the system. Welfare rats with cell phones and the internet. Makes me want to work more O.T. What ever happened to the American work ethic?

Danzig 03-13-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
I'm sick of people who won't work getting paid way more than they deserve. Too many people scam the system. Welfare rats with cell phones and the internet. Makes me want to work more O.T. What ever happened to the American work ethic?

you shouldn't talk about govt employees like that. most of them make more than their civilian counterparts-unbelievable.


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