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Zaf 02-26-2010 09:54 PM

Makes sense , I like it ! Gonna be a high quality meet !:tro:

Left Bank 02-26-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Anything's gotta be a much tougher racket than selling Stone Cold Steve Austin T-shirts to a bunch of degenerate trashy wrestling fans.

:tro: :tro: :tro:

MisterB 03-02-2010 10:36 PM

So NJ stands to destroy NY racing
 
Interesting.
http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2...1575909410.txt

freddymo 03-03-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB

As nice is SPA is during the summer..With the daily T storms..The Jersey Shore is a helluva nice place to set up shop for a few months. NYC 35 miles away.. Philly 65.. and of course you can hang with Snookie and "the Situation" in Seaside

randallscott35 03-03-2010 07:43 AM

A boutique meet would be a great idea for Monmouth. Let's see it get done, however.

Sightseek 03-03-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
As nice is SPA is during the summer..With the daily T storms..The Jersey Shore is a helluva nice place to set up shop for a few months. NYC 35 miles away.. Philly 65.. and of course you can hang with Snookie and "the Situation" in Seaside

If only the could helicopter people in so you wouldn't have to deal with the traffic.

freddymo 03-03-2010 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
If only the could helicopter people in so you wouldn't have to deal with the traffic.

The parkway in summer sucks but don't worry I will hook you up with the back roads. Plus you will be staying a cab ride away with an ocean front room at the Long Branch Pier..The traffic only sucks in the morning.. Monmouth really could be an awesome boutique meet. Let SPA run 4 NY bred races 2 stakes 2 Mdn Spl and claimer turf sprint. Monmouth willtake the allowance, opt claimers. claimers and stake here or there

Sightseek 03-03-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
The parkway in summer sucks but don't worry I will hook you up with the back roads. Plus you will be staying a cab ride away with an ocean front room at the Long Branch Pier..The traffic only sucks in the morning.. Monmouth really could be an awesome boutique meet. Let SPA run 4 NY bred races 2 stakes 2 Mdn Spl and claimer turf sprint. Monmouth willtake the allowance, opt claimers. claimers and stake here or there

Can you also do something about the biased track? :p

philcski 03-03-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Can you also do something about the biased track? :p

Believe it or not... the MTH track is pretty fair most days. Favors the inside sometimes but a lot of times it's pretty straightforward.

freddymo 03-03-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Can you also do something about the biased track? :p

why? You like Keeneland better now.. Maybe we should changethe moniker to Ms. Fat Man?

Sightseek 03-03-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
why? You like Keeneland better now.. Maybe we should changethe moniker to Ms. Fat Man?

If I ever get fat take me outside and shoot me. :o

freddymo 03-03-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
If I ever get fat take me outside and shoot me. :o

Shoot you because of a few extra lbs? It's all good

Antitrust32 03-03-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
If I ever get fat take me outside and shoot me. :o

dont knock it til ya try it.

Kasept 03-06-2010 11:10 AM

New Jersey plan: high risk, high reward
By Matt Hegarty

Horsemen and racetracks in the Northeast are anxiously waiting to hear whether the state of New Jersey plans to press forward with a plan that would triple purses at Monmouth Park during a boutique 50-day race meet this summer, a high-risk proposal that could have dramatic effects on the racing landscape.

Although the plan is subject to change and may not even be implemented, many New Jersey officials who support the proposal call it a potential "revolution." Under the proposal, Monmouth Park would offer $1 million in purses each day - tops in the U.S. - while holding live racing only on days the track can expect to draw thousands of casual customers from the throngs that surge to the Jersey Shore during summer Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays. The meet would run from late May until Labor Day and most significantly affect meets at Belmont Park and Saratoga Race Course by drawing horses from the two New York tracks.

The proposal underlines dramatic changes taking place in Thoroughbred racing as a result of precipitous drops over the last 18 months in handle, purses, and the foal crop. To stand out on a national landscape cluttered with racetrack-casinos offering subsidized purses and extended live meets, many racing officials say, non-subsidized tracks will have to adopt plans similar to the Monmouth Park proposal, even if it means disrupting traditional circuits.

"We need to figure out ways for horseracing to survive, and not only to survive, but ways for horseracing to thrive in New Jersey," said Tom Swales, the president of the Thoroughbred Breeders' Association of New Jersey, an organization involved in the negotiations over the 2010 Monmouth Park meet. "This is one avenue."

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Kasept 03-06-2010 11:11 AM

There likely will be an announcement or press conference regarding the plan Monday.

NoLuvForPletch 03-08-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Believe it or not... the MTH track is pretty fair most days. Favors the inside sometimes but a lot of times it's pretty straightforward.

I'm sorry, fair?

While I don't have any statistics to support this (which I am sure I will be ripped for), and I don't really feel like spending the hours to research it, I would have to say just from watching racing there for the past 20 + years that you want to be on the lead at this place. While it's not the inner merry-go-round at Ozone Park, it is very close IMO.

If you don't have early quicks, don't bother coming.

philcski 03-08-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
I'm sorry, fair?

While I don't have any statistics to support this (which I am sure I will be ripped for), and I don't really feel like spending the hours to research it, I would have to say just from watching racing there for the past 20 + years that you want to be on the lead at this place. While it's not the inner merry-go-round at Ozone Park, it is very close IMO.

If you don't have early quicks, don't bother coming.

I do have statistics to support it.
I researched 5 years of results and the average position of the winner at the 2nd call for the winner was almost exactly the same as Belmont Park and Aqueduct (about 2.5 lengths off the pace.)

NTamm1215 03-08-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I do have statistics to support it.
I researched 5 years of results and the average position of the winner at the 2nd call for the winner was almost exactly the same as Belmont Park and Aqueduct (about 2.5 lengths off the pace.)

For that matter, in the same post a reference was made to the inner "merry-go-round" which anyone who follows NY racing day in and day out knows hasn't been around since Glen Kozak took over, with the exception of a few days each meet.

NT

Scav 03-09-2010 07:55 AM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...monmouth-dates

Most important thing I grabbed from the article was the last sentence

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Total handle would probably have to double to support purses.
Yeah, and where is that gonna come from. Whoa


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