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robfla 02-22-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
These figures don't matter


i guess you cant tell when someone is being sarcastic

Port Conway Lane 02-22-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckpasser
With three impressive wins this weekend from (1) Discreetly Mine, wire-to-wire; (2) Conveyance, wire-to-wire; (3) Eskendereya, forwardly placed throughout the FOY and (4) Rule wire-to-wire last week in Tampa who thinks that any of these will be around at the finish the first Saturday in May?

Connemara looking very interesting if he can navigate a big field at Churchill.

I wouldn't make assumptions about any of the horses you listed. Even if the pace is fast there is no telling which of those horses have the ability to sit 10-15 lengths off of a fast pace.
Connemara has done nothing wrong but before I would get too excited about him I'd like to see how he runs against a field of horses that aren't comprised mostly of former claimers.

RolloTomasi 02-22-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane
Connemara has done nothing wrong but before I would get too excited about him I'd like to see how he runs against a field of horses that aren't comprised mostly of former claimers.

Not to mention he hasn't raced over a conventional dirt surface.

I'm not sure why the initial poster pigeon-holes Eskendereya as some sort of frontrunner. He absolutely crushed the FOY and was merely toying with an all-out Jackson Bend with over a quarter of a mile left to run.

ateamstupid 02-22-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
I'm not sure why the initial poster pigeon-holes Eskendereya as some sort of frontrunner. He absolutely crushed the FOY and was merely toying with an all-out Jackson Bend with over a quarter of a mile left to run.

This was more my point, same with Discreetly Mine. Neither of these horses needs the lead, and who's to say if Rule or Conveyance do either?

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-22-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Buck is excited about the Derby and threw out a thought. People start talking about Super Bowl matchups 6 games into the season. Geez people stop taking yourselves so seriously and thinking you need to be the arbitors and conscience of the game.

In case you forgot this is all supposed to be fun.

and the chances of all of them making the derby..its very early vic

RolloTomasi 02-22-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
This was more my point, same with Discreetly Mine. Neither of these horses needs the lead, and who's to say if Rule or Conveyance do either?

Yep. Despite what the Voice Of Reason has to say, the dubious content of the initial post demanded (and probably was fishing for) some level-headed response.

What's flabbergasting to me was that Connemara was mentioned before a more accomplished closer in Dublin.

Buckpasser 02-24-2010 02:45 PM

Check the ATR archives discussing the KY. Derby pace with Steve Haskin in the first hour!

MISTERGEE 02-24-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla
i guess you cant tell when someone is being sarcastic

now you tell me, I just put a giant across the board bet on Super Saver and a hailstorm;)

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-24-2010 04:49 PM

who is this years smooth air..:rolleyes:

pick4 02-24-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
and the chances of all of them making the derby..its very early vic

Next Monday is March 1st. I think we're in the Goldilocks phase.
It's not too early and it's not late. 9 weeks and a few days enough time for more horses to show they have the ability as well as get hurt or fall on their faces.


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