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Danzig 02-07-2010 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
That's what makes you and Spencer different from me. Although all people are created equal in my mind once they hit puberty they are not and can be 'judged' in the way of actions. Just as a junk car in an accident is not equal to a mint car so is a whore to the other. IMO

BTW goes for the male version of humans as well. Like the nom the dems put up for Lt. Gov. and the Senate Nominee here in IL. c'mon let democracy take its role. You voted these guy's in 'stand by them' Hillary fashion.


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dellinger63 02-07-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
thats pretty sad. So its okay to beat up a whore but not your librarian wife?
Violence against women is violence against women period. Doesnt matter the "social status" of the woman. and comparing us to cars is pretty lame.

if anything this post proves that violence against men needs to pick up.

I said nothing of the such! Both are wrong but IMO beating up your 'librarian' wife is worse than beating up a prostitute in the same vain a murdered civilian is worse than a murdered gang member.

Riot 02-07-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
That's what makes you and Spencer different from me. Although all people are created equal in my mind once they hit puberty they are not and can be 'judged' in the way of actions. Just as a junk car in an accident is not equal to a mint car so is a whore to the other. IMO

BTW goes for the male version of humans as well. Like the nom the dems put up for Lt. Gov. and the Senate Nominee here in IL. c'mon let democracy take its role. You voted these guy's in 'stand by them' Hillary fashion.

Wow. That's sad. Just the kind of "I'm special" attitude that lands one in jail for assault :tro:

Riot 02-07-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I said nothing of the such! Both are wrong but IMO beating up your 'librarian' wife is worse than beating up a prostitute in the same vain a murdered civilian is worse than a murdered gang member.

So it's not okay to beat up a whore or a librarian wife, but if you do, it's better to beat up the whore than the librarian wife, because the librarian wife is ...

... intrinsically worth more as a person?
... a better person?
... not a scurge on society in your own personal opinion?
... it's okay to use whores as punching bags?

Why?

Cannon Shell 02-07-2010 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
So it's not okay to beat up a whore or a librarian wife, but if you do, it's better to beat up the whore than the librarian wife, because the librarian wife is ...

... intrinsically worth more as a person?
... a better person?
... not a scurge on society in your own personal opinion?
... it's okay to use whores as punching bags?

Why?

Ask GPK, a well known manwhore

Riot 02-07-2010 10:48 PM

Scott Lee Cohen quits the race tonight.

There is hope for this country.

GBBob 02-07-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Scott Lee Cohen quits the race tonight.

There is hope for this country.

It's not even a red board for me...

That had to happen

dellinger63 02-08-2010 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
So it's not okay to beat up a whore or a librarian wife, but if you do, it's better to beat up the whore than the librarian wife, because the librarian wife is ...

... intrinsically worth more as a person? YES
... a better person? YES
... not a scurge on society in your own personal opinion? YES
... it's okay to use whores as punching bags? NO

Why?

That last question was a trick right?

Funny you can can insert civilian for librarian wife and gangbanger for prostitute and the questions would be answered the same.

dellinger63 02-08-2010 07:52 AM

Riot, under the new Obama health care plan the librarian and husband will undoubtedly supplement the cost of insurance for the prostitute so now if both the women show up at the same emergency room in the middle of the night, complaining of severe abdominal pain, with only one physician available, who gets treated first?

GBBob 02-08-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Riot, under the new Obama health care plan the librarian and husband will undoubtedly supplement the cost of insurance for the prostitute so now if both the women show up at the same emergency room in the middle of the night, complaining of severe abdominal pain, with only one physician available, who gets treated first?

Don't we already do that?

dellinger63 02-08-2010 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Don't we already do that?

yea but the librarian gets treated first right now. If both show up with insurance cards?

Antitrust32 02-08-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I said nothing of the such! Both are wrong but IMO beating up your 'librarian' wife is worse than beating up a prostitute in the same vain a murdered civilian is worse than a murdered gang member.

you just said the same thing again!

No offense, but anyone with a brain knows that its not more acceptable to beat up a whore just because she's a whore than it is to beat up a librarian.

Both are EQUALLY wrong. Do you also feel that you are better than people who struggle with addiction? Are you worth more to humanity than someone who is unemployed and homeless? Do you think that black people are unequal to white people?

all the same thing

dellinger63 02-08-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
you just said the same thing again!

No offense, but anyone with a brain knows that its not more acceptable to beat up a whore just because she's a whore than it is to beat up a librarian.

you keep inserting the word acceptable for worse to make your point but that is not what I said or meant. Not sure what a prostitute has to do with a black person? Let's also stay with the word prostitiute so as not to offend anyone as the girl who is the focus of the Cohen saga plead gulty to Prostitution not being a whore.

miraja2 02-08-2010 12:24 PM

His withdrawl announcement was beyond strange.
I don't know the details, but it looked like they had the whole family sitting around a table at a pizza place. Cohen was crying and some kid who I assume is his son was absolutely weeping. It had a really odd vibe to it.

miraja2 02-08-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
you keep inserting the word acceptable for worse to make your point but that is not what I said or meant. Not sure what a prostitute has to do with a black person? Let's also stay with the word prostitiute so as not to offend anyone as the girl who is the focus of the Cohen saga plead gulty to Prostitution not being a whore.

What if someone had been a prostitute for a few months but than stopped and hadn't engaged in the activity for a number of years. In your mind, would stabbing her be less acceptable than stabbing an active prostitute, but still more acceptable than stabbing a woman who had never been a prostitute?
Or what about a non-prostitute librarian who occasionally pockets the late fees that people pay? Does she still rank above the prostitute? What if she spends that money she steals from the library on pot? Or what if she donates it to charity?
Man this gets complicated.
It almost seems like.....it might not be so easy to simply put labels on people's worth.

Antitrust32 02-08-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
you keep inserting the word acceptable for worse to make your point but that is not what I said or meant. Not sure what a prostitute has to do with a black person? Let's also stay with the word prostitiute so as not to offend anyone as the girl who is the focus of the Cohen saga plead gulty to Prostitution not being a whore.


You said it is worse to beat up a librarian than it is a whore. the other examples I used are the same as you saying its worse to beat up a librarian than it is a prostitute.

Basically you believe some people are more important or worthy than others based on status.

ArlJim78 02-08-2010 12:31 PM

i didn't support the guy and he seems to have plenty of issues, but something seems very wrong here. He spent his own money on the campaign, he didn't hide anything or break any laws. Now he gets railroaded and told he must bow out?

Like I said, I don't support him or anything he did in the past, but when elections get overturned by the mob it sets a bad precedent. All of this energy should have been put into beating him at the ballot.

dellinger63 02-08-2010 01:08 PM

what's very strange is the fact the clear cut runner-up Art Turner is getting no mention and instead the Dem party, namely (Maddigan / Mel / Quinn) will decide who they want as 'they' apparantly outrank the vote and as usual 'know better'. If this were the other party racism (Turner is African American) would be the cry everywhere. Was Cohen a fall-guy all along?

ArlJim78 02-08-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
what's very strange is the fact the clear cut runner-up Art Turner is getting no mention and instead the Dem party, namely (Maddigan / Mel / Quinn) will decide who they want as 'they' apparantly outrank the vote and as usual 'know better'. If this were the other party racism (Turner is African American) would be the cry everywhere. Was Cohen a fall-guy all along?

I was thinking the same thing. something seems very fishy about this.
I would expect that they would take the runner up, right? I know Hines said thanks but no thanks.

GBBob 02-08-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I was thinking the same thing. something seems very fishy about this.
I would expect that they would take the runner up, right? I know Hines said thanks but no thanks.

The whole process by how the Lt Guv is selected is messed up to begin with. I read the history on how it came to be, but still don't think it's fair to the Governor to have a Lt Gov selected for him.


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