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the_fat_man 01-18-2010 12:36 PM

SA 1/17/10 R5:

BRIDGING

Hard to figure out exactly what Quinonez is doing during the stretch run (the headon is most telling). Hard to resist thinking that he's just flat out retarded or spastic after watching this. What's with all the twirling of the reins? Put the horse outside and get it in a strong drive.

Perfect setup for this one at 8:1 and Quinonez rides like a woman with MS and blows it.

This is one bad ride.

the_fat_man 07-11-2010 08:27 PM

I was catching up on some replays of races I missed today and I just had to resuscitate this thread in honor of Jose Lezcano's ride on Just Playin Around (MTH R8).

Way to go, Jose.:rolleyes:

Yeah, he's a very fine jock.

RockHardTen1985 07-11-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 667973)
I was catching up on some replays of races I missed today and I just had to resuscitate this thread in honor of Jose Lezcano's ride on Just Playin Around (MTH R8).

Way to go, Jose.:rolleyes:

Yeah, he's a very fine jock.

In the last week alone I have heard him be refearred to as one of the best riders in the country and top 3 on turf in the country.

Dahoss 07-11-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 667979)
In the last week alone I have heard him be refearred to as one of the best riders in the country and top 3 on turf in the country.

He is one of the better turf riders in the country.

the_fat_man 07-11-2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 667979)
In the last week alone I have heard him be refearred to as one of the best riders in the country and top 3 on turf in the country.

Did you watch this ride?

NTamm1215 07-11-2010 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 667973)
I was catching up on some replays of races I missed today and I just had to resuscitate this thread in honor of Jose Lezcano's ride on Just Playin Around (MTH R8).

Way to go, Jose.:rolleyes:

Yeah, he's a very fine jock.

He looked like a 10 lb bug when they were coming out of the chute. It was not a good ride considering the style of that particular horse.

Now, you and I both know that he's much better than that on a consistent basis.

NT

RockHardTen1985 07-11-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 667988)
He is one of the better turf riders in the country.

What does better riders in the country even mean then? I know just in NY I would take Maragh, Ramon, Javier and Garcia for sure. Julian and Gomez for sure also, they ride NY at Saratoga.

Dahoss 07-11-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 667998)
What does better riders in the country even mean then? I know just in NY I would take Maragh, Ramon, Javier and Garcia for sure. Julian and Gomez for sure also, they ride NY at Saratoga.

Castellano makes more mistakes and premature moves than anyone you just mentioned. Garcia hasn't ridden well in close to a year. For a guy who doesn't ride first call for any big barns Lezcano has done quite well.

NTamm1215 07-11-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 668000)
Castellano makes more mistakes and premature moves than anyone you just mentioned. Garcia hasn't ridden well in close to a year. For a guy who doesn't ride first call for any big barns Lezcano has done quite well.

That could all be changing. He had two rides for Odintz yesterday. Becoming first call for him could be a career changer.

I think Castellano has shed a lot of the issues he had in the past with wide/premature moves. He does break out with one every once in a while.

NT

the_fat_man 07-11-2010 09:24 PM

I don't see what the problem is with Castellano. I'm one of his biggest critics and he's been riding very well recently, IMO. The jock that's off forum lately is Dominguez.

Now, for an even more infuriating ride: M Garcia's NON EFFORT on Mission Viejo Halo at HOL (7/09 R3). When, other than shaking the reins in the stretch, does he ask the horse to run? In fact, he's doing the exact opposite in the stretch. Where the **** are the stewards with this one?

Dahoss 07-11-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 668007)
That could all be changing. He had two rides for Odintz yesterday. Becoming first call for him could be a career changer.

I think Castellano has shed a lot of the issues he had in the past with wide/premature moves. He does break out with one every once in a while.

NT

I should have thrown in the towel after Odintz won his 2nd yesterday. I guess he's good for the next 6 months though.

Castellano had one of his patented rides in the 4th yesterday. He wasn't beating the winner, but it cost him 2nd I thought, which actually helped me out.

NTamm1215 07-11-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 668017)
I should have thrown in the towel after Odintz won his 2nd yesterday. I guess he's good for the next 6 months though.

Castellano had one of his patented rides in the 4th yesterday. He wasn't beating the winner, but it cost him 2nd I thought, which actually helped me out.

You're right about the move with the horse in the 4th but his 5th race ride was a thing of beauty.

Odintz winning two on one card usually leads to me having a horrible day, which it did yesterday. Of course, David Smith winning one definitely means it's a full moon.
NT

the_fat_man 08-21-2010 06:46 PM

BUMP

Ramon Dominguez, Gio Ponti , Arlington Million

Hopefully, he's still busy trying to dig Clement's boot out of his ass.

ArlJim78 08-21-2010 06:59 PM

The idea that the ride cost Gio Ponti the win is preposterous.
He's home free by two lengths with a 16th to go, what else do you want? He was not the best horse today. and frankly I do not like the way Dominguez brings them home on the turf, but lets get real, he had a big jump on the winner and couldn't close the deal.

Patrick333 08-22-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78 (Post 685914)
The idea that the ride cost Gio Ponti the win is preposterous.
He's home free by two lengths with a 16th to go, what else do you want? He was not the best horse today. and frankly I do not like the way Dominguez brings them home on the turf, but lets get real, he had a big jump on the winner and couldn't close the deal.

I couldn't agree with you more. Sometimes the horse just gets beat.

iamthelurker 08-25-2010 09:07 PM

Garcia letting Castellano through in the 5th today was ridiculous. I make him eat fence there.


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