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Cannon Shell 12-09-2009 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Usurp has faced some decent horses throughout his career but note that he had a 6 month layoff from 2 to 3 followed by an 11th month layoff after a handful of starts at 3.

While he hasn't missed much time this year (aside from a 2 month break after his comeback win), there are red flags starting to pop up. First, Ron Ellis is quoted as saying he came out of his work prior to the Pomona race "a little funky". In that race he got out horribly going into the first turn and finished up the race short strided (whereas he usually fought gamely--even when losing--in prior starts). Either he was hurting, didn't particularly care for dirt, or both.

In his last 2, he has not shown his customary :44+ speed and has finished off the board. Given that he finished in the exacta in 7 of his first 9 starts while racing on the front end, this doesn't bode well.

In addition to dropping down a level today, he also does not have a recorded breeze since his last race.

If he is able to hold up for a few more races, it would be interesting to see how he handles two turns, given his pedigree (his 2nd dam is a Grade 1 winner BTW).
Hey its risky but horses with issues are the ones that can turn out to be the most profitable or on the other hand the biggest disasters. If there is nothing to fix they usually wind up deteriorating in form anyway.

Duvalier 12-09-2009 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Hey its risky but horses with issues are the ones that can turn out to be the most profitable or on the other hand the biggest disasters. If there is nothing to fix they usually wind up deteriorating in form anyway.
Just curious Chuck...what issues are you able to deal with and which ones end up being nothing but a money pit? For example...joints, breathing problems etc.

Cannon Shell 12-09-2009 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Duvalier
Just curious Chuck...what issues are you able to deal with and which ones end up being nothing but a money pit? For example...joints, breathing problems etc.
Sometimes it isnt the specific issue but the degree of severity, especially with breathing issues. Tendons can be really bad. Sometimes all a horse needs is a little rest before a bunch of small things that are bothering them and affecting performance become big things. Not all owners can afford or are patient enough to give a lot of time off to a claimer.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-09-2009 03:51 PM
I think Y.B. got hurt in the final 16th of the Louisiana Derby. He never gave up ground to anyone before that, and he has been giving up ground ever since. What is the other view? After he got beat, his attitude changed? If they thought that, then why wouldn't they've gelded him by now?

Cannon Shell 12-09-2009 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I think Y.B. got hurt in the final 16th of the Louisiana Derby. He never gave up ground to anyone before that, and he has been giving up ground ever since. What is the other view? After he got beat, his attitude changed? If they thought that, then why wouldn't they've gelded him by now?
if you had claimed him we could try to figure that out

RolloTomasi 12-09-2009 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Hey its risky but horses with issues are the ones that can turn out to be the most profitable or on the other hand the biggest disasters. If there is nothing to fix they usually wind up deteriorating in form anyway.
Yep, but this specific horse seems to be going the wrong way quickly, when just last May (6f in 1:08+ for the 3rd time in his career) he seemed a stakes calibur horse. From a handicapping (and jaded) point of view, I wouldn't be looking for this horse to turn it around unless Mike Mitchell or John Sadler happens to claim him.

I'm sure Spirit Of Cochise has issues, too, but he is in good form at the moment at least, having won his last start.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-09-2009 04:23 PM
If someone claims Y.B., my first guess is it's O'neill. That guy must stop for a thrift shop.

Scav 12-09-2009 05:41 PM
If you wait about two month, Yankee Bravo will be at Golden Gate running for 10nw6m

The Indomitable DrugS 12-09-2009 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Who is Yankee Bravo?

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20799

Ring a bell?

docicu3 12-09-2009 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Hey Drugs what's your best guess as to why Rosario got the day off today?

SCUDSBROTHER 12-09-2009 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
You must orgasm on the wall each time they lead him out there to run poorly. O.K....Write about him. I 'm not gunna fight about every horse that goes sour on someone.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-09-2009 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by docicu3
Hey Drugs what's your best guess as to why Rosario got the day off today?
As of today ... I think Vic S. is still Rosario's agent.. he might be a little better suited to answer that question.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-09-2009 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You must orgasm on the wall each time they lead him out there to run poorly. O.K....Write about him. I 'm not gunna fight about every horse that goes sour on someone.
That would be down at about my #34,529th best reason to orgasm on a wall.

Horses go sour all the time ... that type of stuff happens. However, Yankee Bravo basically went from being a very sucky slowpoke you thought was a live Derby horse .. to now being a sour sucky slowpoke.

RockHardTen1985 12-09-2009 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Has it been a month?

The Indomitable DrugS 12-09-2009 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DrugS Future Bro-In-Law
Has it been a month?
I'm not sure Joey ... it's been a while.

RockHardTen1985 12-09-2009 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I'm not sure Joey ... it's been a while.
My sister likes guys like COACH.

GBBob 12-09-2009 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I likes black guys like COACH.
ftfy


sigh

RockHardTen1985 12-09-2009 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
ftfy


sigh
lolol

I like Coach, but I prefer white girls... Older then me usually works.

randallscott35 12-09-2009 07:32 PM
Looks like I can pick him up for 35k soon. Not a pretty run.

NTamm1215 12-09-2009 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Looks like I can pick him up for 8k soon. Not a pretty run.
FTFY

NT


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