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pgardn 08-16-2006 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
It was indeed pure luck and you obviously didnt see teh race if you don't know that. Gomez was "all in" on the turn pumping as hard as he could and losing ground behind the dueling leaders. They blistered fractions and he caught them late. Its also his first win since Friday. Gee, thats just swell. A guy riding nothing but live horses wins one race in 4 racing days, wow, he should go straight in the hall of fame for that one!!! LOL!!! Umm, how many guys is he trailing up here?

How is it that Gomez is getting so many live horses? Bunch of stupid trainers?
And how are stupid trainers able to get horses in condition to be live?

Rupert Pupkin 08-16-2006 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
It was indeed pure luck and you obviously didnt see teh race if you don't know that. Gomez was "all in" on the turn pumping as hard as he could and losing ground behind the dueling leaders. They blistered fractions and he caught them late. Its also his first win since Friday. Gee, thats just swell. A guy riding nothing but live horses wins one race in 4 racing days, wow, he should go straight in the hall of fame for that one!!! LOL!!! Umm, how many guys is he trailing up here?

You are so funny. Whenever Gomez gives a good ride, you say it was luck. His $12.4 million in purses, which is more than any other rider in the country ,must be luck too. When he gives a good ride, it was good racing luck but when he gets into trouble it was not bad racing luck, it was his fault. If you are going to hold him responsible for the bad trips, you have to give him credit for the good trips.

With regard to his ride in the feature today, he rode the horse perfectly. I saw the race. He wasn't "all in" and pumping as hard as he could on the turn. He was riding the horse somewhat to stay close. He may have had to get after her a little bit to keep her running into the dirt that she was taking. Anyway, he placed the horse perfectly and he made his move at the right time. Whenever he started asking the horse was obviously the right time. He won the race didn't he? Actually that doesn't always mean that the ride was good. I've seen bad rides where a horse was so much the best that they won despite getting a bad ride. But that wasn't the case here. I don't think you can critique this ride. He stayed out of trouble and he timed his move right. He rode her perfectly.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-17-2006 05:44 AM

Well,he did look "all in" on the turn to me,and appeared to lose some ground(hence.."all in.") This is what I feel the guy is best at(riding the hell out of a price horse.)It became a Batan Death March,and he was rewarded for staying after his filly the whole time.Guy is always a good play on a price horse that can come late.Now,if he can learn to keep chalk from getting trapped(and/or intimidated,) then he will be worth playing on chalk.

GPK 08-17-2006 06:21 AM

No doubt it was a good ride yesterday, but I still think it was more the benefit of a crappy ride by Jara who was stretching a filly from a 5 furlong debut to 6.5 furlongs and still felt the need to run the 1st quarter in :21.8 and the half in :45 flat. I think Jara clearly had enough horse where he could have let some of the inside speed take off and sit right off them and let them do all the work early....but what the heck do I know?

SCUDSBROTHER 08-17-2006 06:37 AM

Kev,I like a fair track.That track is no such thing.The leader went fast,but lets face it here...they went 1:19 for 6 1/2f. I mean how tiring do you think that track was for that Monmouth filly to come pass nice fillies that easily for 2nd? Track is a joke.I ain't playing it.

GPK 08-17-2006 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Kev,I like a fair track.That track is no such thing.The leader went fast,but lets face it here...they went 1:19 for 6 1/2f. I mean how tiring do you think that track was for that Monmouth filly to come pass nice fillies that easily for 2nd? Track is a joke.I ain't playing it.

I hear ya there. I have been playing some turf races there, but have stayed away from the dirt for the most part. Only reason I even played that race yesterday was because it was the middle leg of the late Pick 3 that looked very hittable at a small price. I will pick a couple spot plays in the last few weeks, but for the most part, I will wait for the fall Belmont meet to start up where I generally have good success.

Cajungator26 08-17-2006 09:15 AM

The thing about Gomez is this:

He's either on or he's off. There seems to be no inbetween with this guy. When he's "on", there is no better rider, but when he's "off", watch out...

I personally like a more consistent rider, but what do I know?

oracle80 08-17-2006 06:28 PM

Hope you guys enjoyed that win yesterday!! Blanked again today. I'm glad you guys worship the meets SIXTH LEADING RIDER SO MUCH!! Cough cough ahem, I said he would get schooled here, and how is it that such a wonderfully consistent rider can be sixth?

Rupert Pupkin 08-17-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Hope you guys enjoyed that win yesterday!! Blanked again today. I'm glad you guys worship the meets SIXTH LEADING RIDER SO MUCH!! Cough cough ahem, I said he would get schooled here, and how is it that such a wonderfully consistent rider can be sixth?

Who cares that he didn't win a race today? He only had three mounts today. He's still won more money in purses than any other rider in North America. Why do guys like Pletcher, Asmussen and Clement keep using him if he is so stupid?

dalakhani 08-17-2006 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Hope you guys enjoyed that win yesterday!! Blanked again today. I'm glad you guys worship the meets SIXTH LEADING RIDER SO MUCH!! Cough cough ahem, I said he would get schooled here, and how is it that such a wonderfully consistent rider can be sixth?

stats are misleading. Prado is out front but Gomez is only TWO back of JV and Eibar who are tied for second and only one back of Cornelio V and Bejarano who are tied for third. He is fifth in terms of earnings. Man, that guy is really stinking it up!!!

If you call a guy winning at a 17% clip and finishing at 52% in the money "getting schooled" then I guess we all have a lot to learn. Please...school me on how that is "getting schooled".

Gander 08-17-2006 06:44 PM

Why do guys like Pletcher, Asmussen and Clement keep using him if he is so stupid?

The million dollar question!

dalakhani 08-17-2006 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Who cares that he didn't win a race today? He only had three mounts today. He's still won more money in purses than any other rider in North America. Why do guys like Pletcher, Asmussen and Clement keep using him if he is so stupid?

More importantly, why did Ron Anderson decide to take on his book? Anderson must be a moron as well. I guess the two he booked rides for before Gomez were real morons as well. Hold on...wait a second...

Didnt that moron anderson use to book rides for a couple of other dumb riders named Bailey and Stevens?

oracle80 08-17-2006 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Why do guys like Pletcher, Asmussen and Clement keep using him if he is so stupid?

The million dollar question!

Asmussen rarely uses him, and when does Clement use him? Maybe once in a while. He doesnt get near Shug's horses and he doesn't get near Mott's either. hasn't ridden a race for Dutrow up here either, hmmm, and he doesnt ride much for Asmussen . Like today, when Asmussen wanted to win a stakes race, he used PRADO!! LMFAO!!!!!
Umm lets see now(man you guys won't ever admit a damn thing). Try this misleading stat!!!
Saturday- Gomez is blanked
Sunday- Gomez is blanked
Monday- Gomez is blanked
Tuesday- day off
Wednesday- Gomez wins one.
Thusday- Gomez is blanked.

Geez guys that just great. Mr Inconsistency wins one race in 5 racing days and please don't tell me he hasn't been on live mounts. Hes in sixth place because he takes 5 day mental vacations in between riding well and winning races.

oracle80 08-17-2006 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
More importantly, why did Ron Anderson decide to take on his book? Anderson must be a moron as well. I guess the two he booked rides for before Gomez were real morons as well. Hold on...wait a second...

Didnt that moron anderson use to book rides for a couple of other dumb riders named Bailey and Stevens?

Simple, noone else as available. WHo the hell else was he gonna get? His rider retired, and everyone else was happy with their agent. I mean, is that rocket science?

Gander 08-17-2006 06:53 PM

Why is he riding Wait a While over Johnny V?

dalakhani 08-17-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Asmussen rarely uses him, and when does Clement use him? Maybe once in a while. He doesnt get near Shug's horses and he doesn't get near Mott's either. hasn't ridden a race for Dutrow up here either, hmmm, and he doesnt ride much for Asmussen today. Like today, when Asmussen wanted to win a stakes race, he used PRADO!! LMFAO!!!!!
Umm lets see now(man you guys won't ever admit a damn thing). Try this misleading stat!!!
Saturday- Gomez is blanked
Sunday- Gomez is blanked
Monday- Gomez is blanked
Tuesday- day off
Wednesday- Gomez wins one.
Thusday- Gomez is blanked.

Geez guys that just great. Mr Inconsistency wins one race in 5 racing days and please don't tell me he hasn't been on live mounts. Hes in sixth place because he takes 5 day mental vacations in between riding well and winning races.

Then i want his job!!!!! Lets see, i only have to work 2 days a week and i win more money than anyone else doing my job? Sign me up!!!

dalakhani 08-17-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Simple, noone else as available. WHo the hell else was he gonna get? His rider retired, and everyone else was happy with their agent. I mean, is that rocket science?

There are a bunch of guys he could have gotten...this is RON ANDERSON for crying out loud. This is the best agent in the game. Are you saying he couldnt have gotten Coa, bejarano, nakatani or a handful of other riders?

oracle80 08-17-2006 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Why is he riding Wait a While over Johnny V?

It became his mount when Johnny chose to ride another horse the day that she went out West. Thats how it works Tim. You don't lose mounts to injury but you do lose mounts when asked to make a decision between two horses and you choose the other one.

oracle80 08-17-2006 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Then i want his job!!!!! Lets see, i only have to work 2 days a week and i win more money than anyone else doing my job? Sign me up!!!

Well Mr terrorist sympathizer, how much do you wanna bet that he doesnt win the most money this year? Name your amount.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-17-2006 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
More importantly, why did Ron Anderson decide to take on his book? Anderson must be a moron as well. I guess the two he booked rides for before Gomez were real morons as well. Hold on...wait a second...

Didnt that moron anderson use to book rides for a couple of other dumb riders named Bailey and Stevens?

Garrett was botching rides left n' right at Anita last Winter.He decided it was his agent's fault.Book available.


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