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randallscott35 10-05-2009 01:42 PM
I think Val Royal got a 116 Beyer for this and looked every bit the part doing it incredibly wide and virtually under a hand ride....Not saying anything about the field.

Cannon Shell 10-05-2009 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35
I think Val Royal got a 116 Beyer for this and looked every bit the part doing it incredibly wide and virtually under a hand ride....Not saying anything about the field.
He did come from a long ways back

CSC 10-05-2009 01:52 PM
How can anyone forget the BC Mile where Domedriver won at 25-1, Rock Of Gibralter finishing second, and Landseer breaking down. The good, the bad and the ugly all in one...

BTW I bet DD that day and was obviously happy, but not happy when you saw Prado's interview of Landseer after the race.

philcski 10-05-2009 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I'd vote for that. Other than Invasor it was a great day. Plus we had the benefit of Byk running down to tell us to pound Street Sense as the bias was obvious. Red Rocks was especially nice though was a bit chilly for the FL and Irish human-shippers. Speaking of that Hooves call me!
Bias? really? It was the 4th race of the day, and logical horses had won the first 3 races. How would anyone have surmised there was a bias by that point? Steve was all over Street Sense weeks before that after his premature move in the Keeneland race. (even though I disagree there was a bias anyways, if you do believe there was a bias that day then Invasor was even more impressive. In retrospect there wasn't an oddball dirt result at all.)

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Really? I thought that mile was one of the weakest editions.
Me too... One of the 3 BC's I've actually attended, however it was a great day overall with it being one of the first major sports events in NYC after 9/11 and the great Classic.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-05-2009 01:56 PM
It's very hard to seperate a great number of them. I'd give a slight edge to 1989 though.

MISTERGEE 10-05-2009 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC
How can anyone forget the BC Mile where Domedriver won at 25-1, Rock Of Gibralter finishing second, and Landseer breaking down. The good, the bad and the ugly all in one...

BTW I bet DD that day and was obviously happy, but not happy when you saw Prado's interview of Landseer after the race.
Agreed, Domedriver splitting hoprses at 25-1, and the Rock making a furious charge form dead last

cakes44 10-05-2009 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by philcski
In retrospect there wasn't an oddball dirt result at all
I thought Round Pond romping in any field was an oddball result.

Either way, I liked 2005 a bunch, but that was the only BC in which I had some success.

CSC 10-05-2009 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE
Agreed, Domedriver splitting hoprses at 25-1, and the Rock making a furious charge form dead last
That was a fcuking range of emotions, I was yelling one moment that I caught a flyer and the next moment you couldn't help yourself from feeling like crap, Prado was genuinely sincere about the loss of Landseer. A range of emotions that I doubt I will ever feel again after a race.

randallscott35 10-05-2009 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC
That was a fcuking range of emotions, I was yelling one moment that I caught a flyer and the next moment you couldn't help yourself from feeling like crap, Prado was genuinely sincere about the loss of Landseer. A range of emotions that I doubt I will ever feel again after a race.
I got published in the NY Daily News because I wrote to complain about the picture of Landseer splashed across the coverage with his leg literally hanging off on the horse.

CSC 10-05-2009 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35
I got published in the NY Daily News because I wrote to complain about the picture of Landseer splashed across the coverage with his leg literally hanging off on the horse.
Good for you to bring that up, that was ridiculous, I don't know if anyone noticed but I caught Tabor I think smiling after that race on the TV. I'm not sure what was said but that really peed me off, I know the guy had Hawk Wing and High Chaparral in the same yr but that was too cold for words.

DaTruth 10-05-2009 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The first one may have been the best one. From a desperate Wild Again holding on in a great finish, Chiefs Crown beating the future Preakness winner in Tanks Prospect and Derby and HOY Spend a Buck in the juvy, the DQ in the juvy filly, Eillo won a pretty weak sprint, Royale Heroine blitzing the mile in TR time and defeating among others Cozzene, Princess Rooneys dominating Distaff romp, Lashkari beating All Along in the turf for the Aga Khan, it was a unbelievable day of racing. That was before tracks stacked stakes races on their big days outside of the supporting races on TC days, there wasnt nearly the amount of shipping cross country, there were no super trainers outside of Wayne Lukas and people were a whole lot less cynical about horse racing.
In the early years of the BC, one of the criticisms was that it offered too much good racing at one place on one day. Supporters pointed out that that format was needed to attract NBC. My how things have changed. The Cup has runneth over to be spread over two days, and mega stakes days have become the norm around the country.

philcski 10-05-2009 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cakes44
I thought Round Pond romping in any field was an oddball result.

Either way, I liked 2005 a bunch, but that was the only BC in which I had some success.
I knew that one would come up. Maybe I'm biased because I bet a LOT of money on her that day, but she won the Acorn, Fantasy, Azeri, and finished 2nd in the Molly Pitcher and a bad-trip 3rd in the Beldame and absolutely fit with that group. Keep in mind the two favorites also DNF'd (sadly). The very good Happy Ticket ran 2nd via DQ producing a very overlaid $446 exacta.

cakes44 10-05-2009 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by philcski
I knew that one would come up. Maybe I'm biased because I bet a LOT of money on her that day, but she won the Acorn, Fantasy, Azeri, and finished 2nd in the Molly Pitcher and a bad-trip 3rd in the Beldame and absolutely fit with that group. Keep in mind the two favorites also DNF'd (sadly). The very good Happy Ticket ran 2nd via DQ producing a very overlaid $446 exacta.
Trust me, I know Happy Ticket finished 2nd. I pounded that horse WP and and in exactas with just about every horse but Round Pond. Apparently, the prep race for RP was just too bad to be true.

-BT- 10-05-2009 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC
How can anyone forget the BC Mile where Domedriver won at 25-1, Rock Of Gibralter finishing second, and Landseer breaking down. The good, the bad and the ugly all in one...

BTW I bet DD that day and was obviously happy, but not happy when you saw Prado's interview of Landseer after the race.

most memorable for me, hands down. I touted Domedriver for weeks going into that race, had w/p and the exacta a couple times, never forget the way Domedriver split horses to get home, and how fast the rock was closing as well :)

http://www.breederscup.com/greatestm...isionname=mile

the one that will live with me until the day i die, Arcangues in 1993. My first BC and i was a HUGE Bertrando fan, tough to watch

http://www.breederscup.com/greatestm...onname=classic

-bt-

brockguy 10-05-2009 02:48 PM
From what I remember
2000 Churchill - Good but would have been better had Giants Causeway won the BC
2001 Belmont - Loved this one. Johannesburg, Fantastic Light and Tiznow winning again
2002 Arlington - Should have been there but for a mishap, not one of my favourites
2003 Santa Anita - Yeah loved this one, Had Cajun Beat..the turf is still one of the most exciting races ive ever seen
2004 Lone Star - all i remember from this was Ghostzapper and Ouija and Jamie Spencer
2005 Belmont - , was cold, Shirocco saved my day.
2006 Churchill - was freezing, had a great laugh and some cracking races
2007 Monmouth - a nightmare
2008 Santa Anita - 1st day OK, 2nd day from Muhannak to Ravens Pass via Conduit was brilliant!!

Cannon Shell 10-05-2009 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardus
First of all, I have great faith in you.

(Secondly, are you trying to say that you will bounce this year off of last year's effort?)
I'm a trainer so obviously I have no clue how to handicap or bet. I doubt I will have any 35-1 shots who I absolutely love again though.

DaTruth 10-05-2009 02:54 PM
The 1985 edition was pretty good. Precisionist, Cozzene, and Pebbles were noteworthy winners. Some very nice horses hit the board including Lady's Secret, Smile, Turkoman, and Gate Dancer. Then there was the Overbrook owned/Jonathan Sheppard trained colt who was nailed at the wire in the Juvy and who would make quite a splash as a sire.

gamblin4ever 10-05-2009 03:51 PM
Lone Star 2004 for me.

Indian Charlie 10-05-2009 04:29 PM
1992, 1989, 1985.

1993 was pretty good too. Kotashaan and the Phone Chatter, Sardula, Heavenly Prize race.


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