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Rudeboyelvis 09-28-2009 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gander
Question for those who follow Tampa racing...Where do the horses that run at Tampa go when Tampa is closed?
I see them everywhere, but primarily Calder, Suffolk, Pinnacle, Presque Isle, Thistle, Finger Lakes. The better ones go to Monmouth and Arlington.

As for Grunder's voice, I would disagree. He's an institution.

I'm biased in that I love Tampa and my only experience outside of Tampa was GP on FL Derby day. While I may go back, I certainly won't on a big day.

Left Bank 09-28-2009 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Gulfstream cost like 2 billion and Tampa looks like it cost $200, but that doesnt mean Gulfstream is a better place to wach racing. Gulfstream was built to please slots players, not horseplayers.

And why go to South Beach when you can go to Pure Platinum in Ft Lauderdale?
I was wondering when someone was going to mention the strip clubs!:D

TropicalStorm 09-28-2009 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardus
You mean the best 10,000 claimers in the world, right?
No, I mean the best horses from the NY and KY circuit. Barbaro, Curlin, English Channel (in an allowance race), Big Brown, Quality Road, Empire Maker, Invasor, etc.

Gulfstream gets the big league horses and the purses are pretty solid for winter racing when most trainers are not really firing on all cylinders but are regrouping for the spring, summer and fall.

gales0678 09-28-2009 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I've heard some mixed reviews on Gulfstream and some positive things on Tampa Bay. If you compared FL tracks, what track would you say is best to visit during February or March considering the following:

- ease of getting around
- expense
- location for nightlife, restaurants etc.
- ambience, crowd, safety etc.

come in dec and go to Calder the best of the 3

Sightseek 09-28-2009 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane
Ok, but based on her criteria Gulfstream is still much better.

Gulfstream is much easier to get around. You can actually walk there from hotels. Tampa Downs in not even in Tampa and there is nothing right there except a driving range.

Gulfstream is actually cheaper if you factor in hotels. It is much cheaper to stay in Hallandale Beach than in Tampa. Tampa is very expensive in the winter.

Nightlife is all Gulfstream. It has it's own nightlife with a casino or you have South Beach.

Ambience is all Gulfstream too. Tampa is a nice small track feel but Gulfstream has a nice outdoor bar and a nice simulcast area if you get a seat, and you have big time racing where you get top horses racing against other top horses and the crowd is great especially on big days. The seating is so limited that it makes it feel like there is always a big crowd there.

I like Tampa but this is really sort of a silly argument. It isn't quite comparing Saratoga to Finger Lakes but it is not that far from it.
Thanks, this is extremely helpful. Biggs was right about the quality of the racing product comment. If Tampa was superior in all other aspects and therefore providing an all around better vacation, I would go there and just book during the TBD or it's prep to catch at least a few good horses.

Sightseek 09-28-2009 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Gulfstream cost like 2 billion and Tampa looks like it cost $200, but that doesnt mean Gulfstream is a better place to wach racing. Gulfstream was built to please slots players, not horseplayers.

And why go to South Beach when you can go to Pure Platinum in Ft Lauderdale?
OK, and for those who don't do strip clubs...what beach or beach area is the best?

gales0678 09-28-2009 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
OK, and for those who don't do strip clubs...what beach or beach area is the best?

south beach is where all the fun is , you will run into stars like paris hilton , kim kardashian and our own Indomitable Drugs

Clearwater beach is a fun place as well if you go to TBD

robfla 09-28-2009 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
OK, and for those who don't do strip clubs...what beach or beach area is the best?



there is a nude beach where the median age is 60, about 4 miles south.

North Haulover Beach.

GPK 09-28-2009 07:48 PM
Sighty, if you make the trip to Tampa...call me, we will split a room;) :{>:

Sightseek 09-28-2009 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Sighty, if you make the trip to Tampa...call me, we will split a room;) :{>:
Dreaming again?

Bigsmc 09-28-2009 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Sighty, if you make the trip to Tampa...call me, we will split a room;) :{>:
I smell a double header....

Scav 09-28-2009 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Thanks, this is extremely helpful. Biggs was right about the quality of the racing product comment. If Tampa was superior in all other aspects and therefore providing an all around better vacation, I would go there and just book during the TBD or it's prep to catch at least a few good horses.
Why not do both? That is what I am hoping to do this winter...

GPK 09-28-2009 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Dreaming again?
Just allow me the pleasure to dream, k?:p

GPK 09-28-2009 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I smell a double header....
I do too bro...I do too:tro: :tro:

GPK 09-28-2009 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
Why not do both? That is what I am hoping to do this winter...
Because some of us have real jobs:mad:

cmorioles 09-28-2009 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Because some of us have real jobs:mad:
Wow, horse talk and free porn courtesy of gpk.

GPK 09-28-2009 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cmorioles
Wow, horse talk and free porn courtesy of gpk.
Gotta be good for something around theses parts:D

Scav 09-28-2009 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Because some of us have real jobs:mad:
And I don't?

It is called vacation time....

Monarchos1 09-29-2009 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
What are people talking about in regards to not being able to see the racing at Gulfstream? I've been on Donn weekend the past two years and have had no problems at all. The entire rail is open all the way down the parking lot to watch the races. In between races there are seats surrounding the paddock that you can sit in so you don't have to stand all day.
I've been all along the rail at Gulfstream and the only part of the race you can see on the backside from the rail is the top of the jockey helmets due to the elevation of the track. The only races you can watch from the paddock seats are on television. I remember when the new facility opened, some turf writer wrote that Gulfstream was basically simulcasting to itself. That sums it up pretty well. There are very, very few locations at Gulfstream from which you can watch an entire race live and actually see the runners. Possibly the worst design in all of racing, certainly of any I have racetracks I have visited.

Antitrust32 09-29-2009 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
OK, and for those who don't do strip clubs...what beach or beach area is the best?

As far as an actual beach? St Pete/Clearwater or up north in Daytona or Cocoa Beach are my favorites. St Pete is right near Tampa. No waves because its the Gulf but its a great beach. Cocoa is my favorite cause you can drink on the beach and not get arrested. Jumping waves while wasted is one of the better things to do in life.

Night life.. no question South FL has some of the best nightlife in the world. If you can imagine it, you can do it..


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