He's admitted that he is having a less than stellar year, by his own standard. The point was that ROI and winning percentage don't correspond. Unless an owner is a big bettor, ROI takes a back seat to wins. K McL has more for Darley now that they bought out the Stonerside stock and clearly that's usually a good way to make money and win races. The problem is that if any of them are really good, they get exiled to Dubai and go to Rick Mettee when they get back. If they come back bad, McLaughlin gets them back...
Hushion is a very good trainer and his barn was once known as a "betting" barn, esp. when Barry Schwartz was his main client.

ROI is without question a much better gauge of how skilled a trainer is than win percentage. It's not even remotely close. But If a trainers reputation becomes too strong it becomes harder to keep the ROI up. If a trainer is not respected, it becomes easier to keep it up.

You are right that owners favor win percentage and virtually all have next to no understanding of ROI. Which is why win percentage becomes a far more important gauge for trainers. Guys like Jamie Ness can win at 32% and still have one of the absolute best ROI's in the land.

It's not just trainers ... a jockey agent should carefully pick and choose to manage his win percentage. Even if it means just riding two or three races a week .. it's better than going out there on 10/1's and 15/1's and killing your riders percentages.

This is sincere, so please don't take it the wrong way. But, I was walking with/by/along side of KM a few times up at Saratoga. It looks like the MS is getting a bit worse for him. You can see it in his walk. That might be contributing to his desire to downsize.

My aunt has it and it's awful to watch people go through what MS does to you. He is an inspiration to many people.

From all accounts he is as classy and honest person as the game has.
I started following him real close around 2004-2005 back when you could get a good price on his runners. Hes an awesome trainer with any type of horse.

I say you can be a classy honest person and still medicate a horse improperly..What say u? I hope nothing but better health and a cure for MS for KM... With that said he is a friggin JUICER

What makes you say that? That he has a high win percentage? He also has some of the best stock out there.

His juice must not have been working well on the 2YOs at Saratoga.

I've heard many conspiracy theories and beliefs on trainers and McLaughlin has never been one that was ever mentioned as a juicer.

NT

Open your ears

OK, sure thing, care to share some of his great move-ups or accomplishments with horses he was juicing?

NT

I dont get the theory that every trainer that wins a quarter of their races or more are juicers/cheaters.
I do buy into the fact that all trainers that win less than 10% of their races are shitty trainers. Whether they are not putting their horses in the right spots or are bad caretakers, or a combination of both.
I put alot of stock into how horses look physically and by that you can usual find the good trainers. But I suppose you would say that it is the juice also.

If this is a challenge I will need to contact my consortium of colleagues that will be able to give you 30 examples. To me they are all blurrs, after I see 5 or 6 of the same thing I recognize that the deck is stacked. He is a juicer period

Not really impressed with West Point stock of horses. Cant remember one thier horses that they had that really imprssed me. I believe Macho Again is thier best horse they ever had.

Kiaran Mclaughlin is my favorite trainer and I hope he wins more stakes wins with the the Sheiks

Ok Muhammed will root right along side of YA..2 thumbs up.. Seattle Fitz was better

freddy you know at yonkers the girl in charge of the giveaways called her girlfriend and told her to be at this slot at 3:00 and the machine would pay off on the special giveaway prize. well it worked so well they tried it again and again and finally someone caught on that someone in the same family kept winning the prize now they are looking at 5 to 10 ... nice to know the higher ups were watching out for slot juciers

I sell give aways get me her #

973-245-1875

the cell number may not work as it probably hasn't been paid recently