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Travis Stone 08-08-2009 07:37 PM

I thought Maram was a two-fist bet against today. I was dead wrong. Kudos to them.

Zaf 08-08-2009 07:44 PM

I was dead wrong too. I tossed her from my late P4, ouch :zz:

Split Rock 08-08-2009 08:28 PM

Someone mentioned to me, which i didn't even realize, that I get an extra 10% bonus because I did it on Youbet. Another almost $1400 in the account on Monday. That is pretty cool since I didn't even know.

NTamm1215 08-08-2009 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
I'm sure NTAMM is familiar w/ that angle.

A bit.

I was expecting something ground-breaking or innovative but I suppose the cutback angle is strong enough to take a stand.

I wasn't too keen on Flashing because I thought the Nassau County was an absolute staggerfest and she just lucked into the win. She proved best today in a race that was both uninspiring on paper and in actuality in my opinion.

NT

the_fat_man 08-08-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I was expecting something ground-breaking or innovative but I suppose the cutback angle is strong enough to take a stand.



That's the angle that works on dirt but not on turf, right?:rolleyes:

Split Rock 08-08-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
That's the angle that works on dirt but not on turf, right?:rolleyes:

In my opinion, that is correct.

the_fat_man 08-08-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Split Rock
In my opinion, that is correct.

That's the consensus among the ANGLEicians on this and other sites.

Maybe after Serling and his boys witness a couple hundred more turf cutback winners (today's 11th for the most recent example) this will finally get 'revised'. Officially, I hold off betting all these types until 'official' word comes down.

freddymo 08-08-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
That's the consensus among the ANGLEicians on this and other sites.

Maybe after Serling and his boys witness a couple hundred more turf cutback winners (today's 11th for the most recent example) this will finally get 'revised'. Officially, I hold off betting all these types until 'official' word comes down.


You really have no clue about Mr. Serling and the way he handicaps. He doesn't hold any one thing (angle) in such high regard. All the data is part of the solution. Sometimes there isn't much data and the angles have more weight in his decision making, sometimes they hold vitually no weight. What makes him so good is diseminating all the information not being dogmatic to a specific discipline. Does he like cutbacks? Sure when he thinks the horse is better suited for a shorter race..There are plenty of times he dismisses the cutbacks.

chucklestheclown 08-08-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You really have no clue about Mr. Serling and the way he handicaps. He doesn't hold any one thing (angle) in such high regard. All the data is part of the solution. Sometimes there isn't much data and the angles have more weight in his decision making, sometimes they hold vitually no weight. What makes him so good is diseminating all the information not being dogmatic to a specific discipline. Does he like cutbacks? Sure when he thinks the horse is better suited for a shorter race..There are plenty of times he dismisses the cutbacks.

What's the phrase for that? Something about statistics, I believe.

the_fat_man 08-08-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You really have no clue about Mr. Serling and the way he handicaps. He doesn't hold any one thing (angle) in such high regard. All the data is part of the solution. Sometimes there isn't much data and the angles have more weight in his decision making, sometimes they hold vitually no weight. What makes him so good is diseminating all the information not being dogmatic to a specific discipline. Does he like cutbacks? Sure when he thinks the horse is better suited for a shorter race..There are plenty of times he dismisses the cutbacks.

Freddy

You really need to CHILL. Searling is constantly saying that CUTBACKS don't work on turf. The last time he wore the duncecap, it was because of a turf cutback horse at BEL. Of course, he's even stronger against turf sprinters stretching out.

But thanks for the lesson on handicapping methodology.

CSC 08-08-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I thought Maram was a two-fist bet against today. I was dead wrong. Kudos to them.

Don't worry about it, I still think Colonel John is a two-fist, 1 foot bet against in that turf race he won at Delmar a few weeks ago. There are plenty of dunce caps to go around here.


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