Derby Trail Forums

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   The Paddock (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   ML Odds for Saratoga leading rider (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30902)

johnny pinwheel 07-26-2009 07:53 PM

garcia at 12-1 looks good. i have it narrowed down to the 4 logical ones, kent D., ramon D., and johnny v. these guys connect with the live barns here and ride the grass better than the others. all the rest are considered "bombs" in my mind.

hurricanefrank 07-26-2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Dominguez (4/5)
Velazquez (4/1)
Prado (5/1)
Desormeaux (6/1)
Garcia (12/1)
Coa (15/1)
Velasquez (20/1)
Lezcano (20/1)
Maragh (30/1)
Leparoux (40/1)
Alberado (50/1)
Castellano (60/1)
Borel (100/1)
Field (150/1)

Give me $20W on Leparoux at 40-1

dean smith 07-27-2009 10:51 AM

COA!

15/1 ?!

Eibar is the man. He always seems to win for me. He's "my boy" and he's who I've got my money on.

hurricanefrank 07-27-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean smith
COA!

15/1 ?!

Eibar is the man. He always seems to win for me. He's "my boy" and he's who I've got my money on.

If I weren't getting 40-1 on the Frenchman Coa was my choice 15-1. He's a stud rider on the lawn. IMO there's no better in NY right now.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-27-2009 12:02 PM

Leparoux didn't manage to win 20 races at Saratoga last year - or the year before that - and he didn't ride a single winner at Belmont this year ... so it's going to be hard for him to get live with NY horses.

With other Kentucky riders like Alberado, Borel, Mena, Castanon, and possibly Theriot at Saratoga this year .. and with Prado seemingly picking up Asmussen .. it's not like he will have every good mount from Kentucky barns either. No Biancone babies either I don't think.

I realize he crushed most of these riders and won this years Keeneland meet by double digits .. but the NY riders have the same disadvantages at KEE that he will coming to NY. He only beat Borel by a single win at CD and trailed him on win percentage.

fantini33 07-27-2009 02:52 PM

I'll take a Maragh, Johnny V box please. Coa used to be my go to guy on the lawn but throughout the Belmont meet I seemed to get tough rides from him. I'll take Garcia and Lezcano splitting horses in those turf sprints, saving ground.

That said, I just guaranteed Coa to bring home 6 $20 turf winners openiong weekend.:mad:

hurricanefrank 07-27-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Leparoux didn't manage to win 20 races at Saratoga last year - or the year before that - and he didn't ride a single winner at Belmont this year ... so it's going to be hard for him to get live with NY horses.

With other Kentucky riders like Alberado, Borel, Mena, Castanon, and possibly Theriot at Saratoga this year .. and with Prado seemingly picking up Asmussen .. it's not like he will have every good mount from Kentucky barns either. No Biancone babies either I don't think.

I realize he crushed most of these riders and won this years Keeneland meet by double digits .. but the NY riders have the same disadvantages at KEE that he will coming to NY. He only beat Borel by a single win at CD and trailed him on win percentage.

Good pts all. I do note he has a mount in every race opening day albeit most are on outsiders, at least according to the m/l. He'll certainly need Maker and Zito to have strong meets for him to have any hope of being in the mix.

johnny pinwheel 07-28-2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean smith
COA!

15/1 ?!

Eibar is the man. He always seems to win for me. He's "my boy" and he's who I've got my money on.

i do well with him too, even though i did not pick him in my top 4. he is good on the lawn and gets overlays but hes very inconsistant. i've seen him ride like a genius in one race and totally get into trouble the next. i agree though he does get them home at a square price.

Clip-Clop 07-28-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
lezcano is ultra bad..he will have a higher roi than any of these. and ramon d at 4/5 is a huge bet against. imo

Well put, Lezcano is the man, really come into his own this year after a great MTH meet last year.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:31 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.