Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I would also say there are average dirt horses moving up out west, and good dirt horses who move down out west. I would also say its visa versa as well going east.

There also is a 10/1 horse population difference, its pretty hard to comparisons when its like two different divisions, kinda like big school and small school sports, you might get some nice kids from the small schools but the sheer numbers will also give the bigger schools the comparative advantage.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Rags to Riches, for whatever it's worth ( which is nothing ), is an East Coast horse that happened to spend a winter in California.

Just another example of how misguided the whole notion is.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Isn't it more than reasonable to assume that there are some very talented horses in California who's abilities are being completely daunted by synthetic surfaces ( like I Want Revenge was )?....

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why do people care where good horses are supposedly from ( Pioneer of the Nile is as much an East Coast horse as I Want Revenge was a West Coast horse )? This is a mythical, and non-existant, rivalry. A good horse is a good horse.....wherever it races.

Originally Posted by Stickhorse

I have never heard a losing trainer or jock remark, "Hey at least that horse was from our circuit!"

Originally Posted by Sightseek

By decent do you mean only slightly overrated?