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elturko 05-17-2009 08:04 AM

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goldiva- amazing turn afoot.... o9 kd loss by 43.3 legs took 4th pl.congs to cborel 3in arow... always apleasure elturko

King Glorious 05-17-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by elturko
goldiva- amazing turn afoot.... o9 kd loss by 43.3 legs took 4th pl.congs to cborel 3in arow... always apleasure elturko

Exactly. Couldn't agree more.

Danzig 05-17-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane
I take nothing away from what she did but was responding to a statement declaring that she beat better horses. I'm not sure that can be determined this early in this year's crop but adding Plugged Nickel to the list of '80 grads certainly completes the top of the list for that group.

yeah, true it's too soon to know about this years horses. but the fact that risk won the derby, and then placed in the preakness and belmont puts her in the lead of the tc winning fillies group in my opinion. of course, rachel may not yet be done. for her to come back to the belmont if they so decide, and win that....i'd love to see it. i would love to see that happen. but...if it were me, i'd give her a bit of a break, and then take on the travers.

Danzig 05-17-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Exactly. Couldn't agree more.


lol!! :tro:

Linny 05-17-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elturko
goldiva- amazing turn afoot.... o9 kd loss by 43.3 legs took 4th pl.congs to cborel 3in arow... always apleasure elturko

can't argue with that...

RolloTomasi 05-17-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
As far as I can tell, it's happened four times.

1980, Oaks winner Bold N Determined beat Derby winner Genuine Risk in the Maskette by a nose.

1988, Derby winner Winning Colors beat Oaks winner Goodby Halo by 1/2 length in the BC Distaff (both behind Personal Ensign). Goodbye Halo and Winning Colors had traded victories prior to them winning the Derby and Oaks.

1999, Derby winner Charismatic beat Oaks winner Silverbulletday in the Belmont although neither won the race.

2009, Oaks winner Rachel Alexandra beat Derby winner Mine that Bird by a length in the Preakness.

Even though it wasn't Derby vs. Oaks, I'd throw in Oaks winner Rags to Riches beating Preakness winner Curlin by a nose in the 2007 Belmont. That's a very good record right there. Am I missing any other times when it's happened?

Princess Doreen got beat by Zev in the '20s.

Cicada was defeated by Belmont winner Jaipur (plus Derby/Preakness-placed Ridan) in '62 Travers.

Davona Dale got lit up by Derby runner-up General Assembly in the '79 Travers.

Lite Light was behind Derby runner-up Best Pal in the '91 Super Derby.

FATPIANO 05-18-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
So, of the fillies who have won a Triple Crown race, who was the best?

Genuine Risk

Antitrust32 05-18-2009 12:41 PM

I'm not sure how good Regret was cause I dont know anything about her, but her name keeps popping up in the history books.


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