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slotdirt 05-13-2009 10:34 PM

Wow, purses really blow in Maryland right now, eh?

JerseyJ 05-13-2009 11:59 PM

Silver Edition actually looks very interesting in the MD Sprint Handicap. Gets a good jock switch to the patient Leparoux, and made up ground in a race where the wet-track loving Accredit went wire-to-wire over the best part of the racing surface, whereas Silver Edition had to make up ground on the outside of the track, which was clearly not the place to be on Derby Day. Should get a solid pace set-up in this race I would think, and there are no killers in here, that's for sure.

jms62 05-14-2009 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cantknockthehustle
Seriously, why would they do that? I am going but don't plan on getting there until around noon...to pay a lot money for a ticket and miss two graded stakes is ridiculous. I know, get there earlier...

2 Graded stakes before noon... Absurd. They could have started the graded at 1 and have races 6-12 all graded.

philcski 05-14-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
Silver Edition actually looks very interesting in the MD Sprint Handicap. Gets a good jock switch to the patient Leparoux, and made up ground in a race where the wet-track loving Accredit went wire-to-wire over the best part of the racing surface, whereas Silver Edition had to make up ground on the outside of the track, which was clearly not the place to be on Derby Day. Should get a solid pace set-up in this race I would think, and there are no killers in here, that's for sure.

Very much agree

cakes44 05-14-2009 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Very much agree

Silver Edition always hangs for me. I won't bet him this weekend to give you guys a chance. No thanks necessary.

chucklestheclown 05-14-2009 11:37 AM

Who is Bill Komlo?

Smooth Operator 05-14-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Swale84
Scott Blasi, assistant trainer: “I’d rather have than 13 than 1.”

I guess this translates into 'we have the 2nd worst post position in the race"

Tell Scott to relax ... the great internet horse racing sage "Quiet Chris" said "post means nothing in the Preakness." lol

TheSpyder 05-14-2009 04:42 PM

tone it down trainer
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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Who is Bill Komlo?


miraja2 05-14-2009 11:08 PM

I like Take the Points here. I'm not sure how exactly I'm going to use him yet, but I'll probably bet him across and use him underneath RA in an exacta and in the bottom spots of some exotics.

Maybe I'm just completely nuts for liking this horse, but his last race on the dirt at GP, and his dirt works after the Santa Anita Derby are interesting enough for me to like him more than any of the top finishers in the Derby, and I think he could be a factor at pretty big odds.

chucklestheclown 05-14-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
tone it down trainer

LOL. That much I know. I meant WHO is he? What has he done? Where is he based? What is his record? WHY is this horse entered? I haven't seen the PPs.
Is this a Whitney horse? Sheesh!

Danzig 05-15-2009 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
LOL. That much I know. I meant WHO is he? What has he done? Where is he based? What is his record? WHY is this horse entered? I haven't seen the PPs.
Is this a Whitney horse? Sheesh!

tone it down finished third in the tesio. i think they're hoping he'll be this years magic weisner.

Port Conway Lane 05-15-2009 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
tone it down finished third in the tesio. i think they're hoping he'll be this years magic weisner.

He doesn't qualify being a Ky bred.Not surprisingly the field is dominated by Ky breds.

Without looking who is the only Florida bred in the race and when is the last time a Fla. bred won the Preakness?
(I don't know myself)

Danzig 05-15-2009 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane
He doesn't qualify being a Ky bred.Not surprisingly the field is dominated by Ky breds.

Without looking who is the only Florida bred in the race and when is the last time a Fla. bred won the Preakness?
(I don't know myself)

i was saying next MW in reference to him being a local horse that will probably get discounted by most...well, by everyone actually!

cakes44 05-15-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane
He doesn't qualify being a Ky bred.Not surprisingly the field is dominated by Ky breds.

Without looking who is the only Florida bred in the race and when is the last time a Fla. bred won the Preakness?
(I don't know myself)

Afleet Alex?

NTamm1215 05-15-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I like Take the Points here. I'm not sure how exactly I'm going to use him yet, but I'll probably bet him across and use him underneath RA in an exacta and in the bottom spots of some exotics.

Maybe I'm just completely nuts for liking this horse, but his last race on the dirt at GP, and his dirt works after the Santa Anita Derby are interesting enough for me to like him more than any of the top finishers in the Derby, and I think he could be a factor at pretty big odds.

I want to like him too, especially considering he's been pretty good on the dirt. The problem I had was that his GP race looks a bit counterfeit given that the runner-up got beaten badly in minor graded stakes on dirt and synth and the 3rd place finisher is a claimer. This guy had everything his own way with the slow pace and the track was strong speed favoring on 1/31.

I think of the new shooters, everyone's darling Big Drama ranks at the top of the list. I get the feeling this race will end up quite formful.

NT

Port Conway Lane 05-15-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
Afleet Alex?

Sounds right. Aloma's Ruler and Affirmed were the only two that I could recall.

miraja2 05-15-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I want to like him too, especially considering he's been pretty good on the dirt. The problem I had was that his GP race looks a bit counterfeit given that the runner-up got beaten badly in minor graded stakes on dirt and synth and the 3rd place finisher is a claimer. This guy had everything his own way with the slow pace and the track was strong speed favoring on 1/31.
NT

True, but I think he is eligible to improve on the return to dirt after his two Cali races. Even though he was soundly beaten in the Sham, I thought his race that day was pretty good, and there is nothing wrong with losing to The Pample after chasing him wide all the way around the track. Then, in the Santa Anita Derby, he got cut off in the stretch which appeared to bother him quite a bit. It seems like he might be one of those 3yo who has improved quite a bit over the last few months or so, but that improvement is masked a little bit because of the surface switch.
He also sems to have enough tactical speed that he should be able to get over easily from the outside post and sit right behind the leaders.

I admit I'm probably reaching on this one, but I hate all of the horses coming out of the Derby in this spot, with the possible exception of FF. I think Take the Points is as likely to hit the board as somebody like Papa Clem or Mine that Bird, but Take the Points will be a much better price than those two.

Travis Stone 05-15-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I think of the new shooters, everyone's darling Big Drama ranks at the top of the list. I get the feeling this race will end up quite formful.

I like Big Drama as a horse, but the more I hear people are onto him, the more underlay-like he becomes.

What type of trip does everyone expect he sits?

If he goes to the front, which is very likely, Rachel Alexandra is not going to be far behind. And provided she runs her race, she'll move towards him on the far turn. So can Big Drama, with one sprint race under his belt this year, really go 9.5 furlongs on the lead, fend off Rachel Alexandra and anyone else who might come late?

Thunder Gulch 05-15-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62
2 Graded stakes before noon... Absurd. They could have started the graded at 1 and have races 6-12 all graded.

While I agree with you, the card is bad enough when you look inside the lack of talent filling the fields. If you stack all of the graded races at the back, you would have minimal handle on the first several races.

ateamstupid 05-15-2009 01:00 PM

I like Wesley in the Dixie. Good field, but everybody has holes. Wesley was up against it trying to close from last into a slow pace in the Muniz and it looks like the blinks kept him more involved early in the Miami Mile. Lauro's interesting as well. This is probably the best race on the card.


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