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Thunder Gulch 05-12-2009 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
The amount of s.hit Jess Jackson has taken on this board continues to surprise me. Sure, he used quite a bit of hyperbole when it came to Curlin and I'm sure he's got more in store for Rachel Alexandra. But who cares?

Further, Curlin's 4YO campaign was everything that we as fans seem to desire. He ran in the big races, he tried different things and he ended up running in a race that WE wanted to see him in. Now he's doing something with Rachel Alexandra that realistically was a longshot with her prior connections.

What would everyone be saying if Godolphin had purchased Rachel Alexandra? They've really done a great job getting Music Note and Cocoa Beach to the races this year as both are now out until at least mid-June despite having 0 injuries. They took Seventh Street and put her in the blue silks, and have now pushed her next start back to the Ogden Phipps after she came out of her Apple Blossom victory in perfect condition according to Kiaran McLaughlin.

At least we know Jess Jackson is going to run her. And what the hell is with all of the complaints about running her in the Preakness? That was a public workout in the Oaks. Are the same people who complain about horses being prematurely retired or ducking the biggest spots complaining about Jess Jackson owning Rachel Alexandra and running her in the Preakness?

Whether Jackson is talking out of his ass when it comes to breeding stronger and more stamina-oriented horses remains to be seen as well, however, he seems to be one of the few actually talking about it.

It just seems funny to me that Jess Jackson might be the guy that actually does some of the things that racing fans want yet everyone is sickened by him buying Rachel Alexandra.

Happy Mother's Day.

NT

Absolutely agree..say what you want about his ego, but the guy wants to prove that his horse is better than the others (even if he just bought her). At least Jackson is looking for a challenge while the other major story involving the Preakness this week was a case of idiot owners trying to exclude the horse everyone wants to see run.

richard burch 05-12-2009 11:53 AM

the best thing in the article....

Monmouth Park, which opens this weekend, continues to be the best-kept secret in horseracing. It may not have the purses of Saratoga or Belmont or the history of Churchill Downs, but it is one America's best racetracks. A beautiful venue on the picturesque Jersey Shore, it's one of the few places left that has an opening day and a closing day and people still care about live racing.

When the weather gets at its Jersey Shore best in the summer, a day at Monmouth matches a day at any racetrack in America. It's well worth a visit.

MaTH716 05-12-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by richard burch
the best thing in the article....

Monmouth Park, which opens this weekend, continues to be the best-kept secret in horseracing. It may not have the purses of Saratoga or Belmont or the history of Churchill Downs, but it is one America's best racetracks. A beautiful venue on the picturesque Jersey Shore, it's one of the few places left that has an opening day and a closing day and people still care about live racing.

When the weather gets at its Jersey Shore best in the summer, a day at Monmouth matches a day at any racetrack in America. It's well worth a visit.

It's completely false. Monmouth is a very nice track and I enjoy going their with my boys. But, the racing on most days is not very good. In my opinion it doesn't even belong in the same sentence as Belmont and Saratoga.

Yeah, and no one cares about opening and closing day at Saratoga. :rolleyes:

richard burch 05-12-2009 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
It's completely false. Monmouth is a very nice track and I enjoy going their with my boys. But, the racing on most days is not very good. In my opinion it doesn't even belong in the same sentence as Belmont and Saratoga.

Yeah, and no one cares about opening and closing day at Saratoga. :rolleyes:

our options are limited in n.j. hope to see you there during the summer.

Merlinsky 05-13-2009 08:41 PM

Finley, Plonk... nice try Cronley, can't just sip the crazy Kool-Aid, gotta drink the whole glass if you want to compete.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...jay&id=4165114

I don't think Rachel just lucked out with small fields. One of the things about being who she is, is you start scaring off the competition. And what's she gonna do? Hit up fields of 3 in the future? Who wants their filly's heart broken? Might've aimed for the Belmont or Travers myself if you want actual competition with less of a tight fit between races but sure, they wanna go for the Preakness it's not that crazy. Poor MTB, he's not so hopeless--for a lil fella he thinks he's hot stuff this week right? Giacomo hit the board, MTB's got his new style and a confidence boost.

free25 05-14-2009 04:21 AM

Well Jes Jackson said one of the smartest things i have ever heard an owner say a while back...Something to the tune of taking Horse Racing back to the track and away from the breeder's....It may be happening now with the decline in sales and stud fee's. It makes logical sense that horses would race longer if there wasn't such incentives for them to retire. I applaud Jackson on his purchase...Go Rachel....

Cannon Shell 05-14-2009 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by free25
Well Jes Jackson said one of the smartest things i have ever heard an owner say a while back...Something to the tune of taking Horse Racing back to the track and away from the breeder's....It may be happening now with the decline in sales and stud fee's. It makes logical sense that horses would race longer if there wasn't such incentives for them to retire. I applaud Jackson on his purchase...Go Rachel....

And his words may mean more if he didnt have a giant commercial breeding operation. Racing Curlin at 4 under murky circumstances and running his new toy in the Preakness hardly establishes a trend. Wanna bet RA is bred next spring?

Bernardini 05-14-2009 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
The amount of s.hit Jess Jackson has taken on this board continues to surprise me. Sure, he used quite a bit of hyperbole when it came to Curlin and I'm sure he's got more in store for Rachel Alexandra. But who cares?

Further, Curlin's 4YO campaign was everything that we as fans seem to desire. He ran in the big races, he tried different things and he ended up running in a race that WE wanted to see him in. Now he's doing something with Rachel Alexandra that realistically was a longshot with her prior connections.

What would everyone be saying if Godolphin had purchased Rachel Alexandra? They've really done a great job getting Music Note and Cocoa Beach to the races this year as both are now out until at least mid-June despite having 0 injuries. They took Seventh Street and put her in the blue silks, and have now pushed her next start back to the Ogden Phipps after she came out of her Apple Blossom victory in perfect condition according to Kiaran McLaughlin.

At least we know Jess Jackson is going to run her. And what the hell is with all of the complaints about running her in the Preakness? That was a public workout in the Oaks. Are the same people who complain about horses being prematurely retired or ducking the biggest spots complaining about Jess Jackson owning Rachel Alexandra and running her in the Preakness?

Whether Jackson is talking out of his ass when it comes to breeding stronger and more stamina-oriented horses remains to be seen as well, however, he seems to be one of the few actually talking about it.

It just seems funny to me that Jess Jackson might be the guy that actually does some of the things that racing fans want yet everyone is sickened by him buying Rachel Alexandra.

Happy Mother's Day.

NT



Amen, I liked Curlin, I liked the fact that he competed in most all top notch races and yes thank you Jess Jackson for making it possible.


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