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Clip-Clop 04-30-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I'll take most money over most winners anyday.

Hard to have one without the others. "Betting to place is like kissing your sister, betting to show is like kissing your brother."

CSC 04-30-2009 12:59 PM

Zambesi Sun has been a major dissapointment since coming over, he should be a great price assuming Frankel doesn't scratch him, maybe he's finally figured him out. I think he's interesting.

mclem0822 04-30-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonadave[B
]dont forget the Oaks-woodford-derby Pick3, a new bet this year[/b].

Where is that bet availible at? Where's the best place to access the wagering menu? I've looked at KD.com not finding it yet.

philcski 04-30-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:o

Maybe Cowboy Cal is a little reach, but isn't he better on turf? Who am I missing?

I don't think it's a reach at all. I actually like him in here- I was just laughing at the fact taht its the PG1985 exacta :o

TheSpyder 04-30-2009 01:01 PM

I agree, think he's sitting on a big race.
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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Zambezi Sun looks interesting to me. . . I think you can excuse his first two in the states and his European form trounces these. . . Just not sure about the distance. . .


Sightseek 04-30-2009 01:59 PM

^^^ PG's biggest fan.

philcski 04-30-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Trust me Phil, I had a good laugh at it last night myself. Let's hope we're still laughing Saturday night.

Looking at Court Vision, I just noted that he's picking up a LOT of weight from his last few races. Not something I normally get too worried about but given the expected softer turf it could be an issue.

Also, if Maker can make another move-up with Furthest Land, he's got a shot in here at a monster price. I may just bet him straight.

Gander 04-30-2009 07:38 PM

I'm hoping Zambezi Sun takes more money than the other Frankel (Proudinski) and I think theres a good chance they will be a lot closer in odds than their morning lines dictate. Juddmonte horses usually get bet off the charts and for the life of me I dont see anything in this horse from his last 2 that would put him in the hunt here... hes going shorter and facing better horses on Saturday. He will be a better price than he was in his last two, but I dont see him hitting the exacta. I also dont like Einstein in here coming off the poly in what was an excellent race but against turf horses running on the poly. I dont care what his price is, I am chucking him. Hes beaten me before but I dare him to again!

Proudinski should be just off the lead of Cowboy Cal, maybe even on it if no one else goes. This distance is perfect for him and while hes shown to be really good on a wet turf, I love him on dry & wet in this race. I can see him and Cal running 1-2 around the track. Those are the two I'd use in a pick and a small exacta box.

Court Vision has crushed me before and may do it again but letting him beat me in here. I dont see this race setting up for his huge close and his price wont be all that inviting.

Clip-Clop 05-01-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I'm hoping Zambezi Sun takes more money than the other Frankel (Proudinski) and I think theres a good chance they will be a lot closer in odds than their morning lines dictate. Juddmonte horses usually get bet off the charts and for the life of me I dont see anything in this horse from his last 2 that would put him in the hunt here... hes going shorter and facing better horses on Saturday. He will be a better price than he was in his last two, but I dont see him hitting the exacta. I also dont like Einstein in here coming off the poly in what was an excellent race but against turf horses running on the poly. I dont care what his price is, I am chucking him. Hes beaten me before but I dare him to again!

Proudinski should be just off the lead of Cowboy Cal, maybe even on it if no one else goes. This distance is perfect for him and while hes shown to be really good on a wet turf, I love him on dry & wet in this race. I can see him and Cal running 1-2 around the track. Those are the two I'd use in a pick and a small exacta box.

Court Vision has crushed me before and may do it again but letting him beat me in here. I dont see this race setting up for his huge close and his price wont be all that inviting.


Proudinsky is the pick in the mush, but Einstein is still going to be tough to beat.

Mike 05-01-2009 01:47 PM

Rachel with Regal Ransom, Chocolate Candy and I Want Revenge

GPK 05-01-2009 01:58 PM

What post did English Channel draw in the Woodford?

Clip-Clop 05-01-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
What post did English Channel draw in the Woodford?

He is my all time favorite, never let me down. He would destroy this group.

miraja2 05-01-2009 02:18 PM

Rachel Alexandra, Justwhistledixie / I Want Revenge
&
Rachel Alexandra / I Want Revenge, Pioneerof the Nile

I usually wouldn't play an all-chalk double, but there might be value here because many seem to like others in the Derby. I still think Justwhistledixie has an outside shot here, and if she does win, it should pay well given how many people will single RA.
If it is RA and IWR (which seems quite probable), at least I'll have it twice.

Clip-Clop 05-01-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Rachel Alexandra, Justwhistledixie / I Want Revenge
&
Rachel Alexandra / I Want Revenge, Pioneerof the Nile

I usually wouldn't play an all-chalk double, but there might be value here because many seem to like others in the Derby. I still think Justwhistledixie has an outside shot here, and if she does win, it should pay well given how many people will single RA.
If it is RA and IWR (which seems quite probable), at least I'll have it twice.

Bets like yours are the reason I posted the payouts here for the last few. It always pays pretty good.:$:

GPK 05-01-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop
He is my all time favorite, never let me down. He would destroy this group.

You my long lost twin?:eek:

Clip-Clop 05-01-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
You my long lost twin?:eek:

Not if you are 5'8" ! :D

6'6" here.

GPK 05-01-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop
Not if you are 5'8" ! :D

6'6" here.

So you got all the height in the family, I just got the good looks.

I dream about being 5'8". I was measured a couple weeks ago...a smooth 5'7 1/8":wf

Clip-Clop 05-01-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
So you got all the height in the family, I just got the good looks.

I dream about being 5'8". I was measured a couple weeks ago...a smooth 5'7 1/8":wf

Clearly though we have great taste in horses!:D


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