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dellinger63 04-18-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
And apparently in his mind, to, as the guy said he was American in the article.

I personally can't tell who is American, and who isn't, from last names..


I can. It's a gift

Danzig 04-18-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
now I hope this guy don't just get a beating but the eyes popping out kind of beating. He can get up and that is his right and someone else can donkey punch his as$. After all if no one sees a tree fall etc. LOL Only in America can you forsake God and expect millions of dollars and some people will actually support you.

so, he can enjoy his rights, but he gets his ass beat for it? interesting thought process. nothing like a little violence to keep dissenters in line-what better way to get them thinking they should ask god to bless america than a little strong arming. guy had it coming.

dellinger63 04-19-2009 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
so, he can enjoy his rights, but he gets his ass beat for it? interesting thought process. nothing like a little violence to keep dissenters in line-what better way to get them thinking they should ask god to bless america than a little strong arming. guy had it coming.

Exactly!! But in this regime being disrespectful to anything America or God is a badge of courage. Meanwhile our returning vets who have put their lives on the line for America are to be considered possible terrorists? It's the upside down America and it's very sick. Barney Frank/Ted Kennedy kind of sick.

Danzig 04-19-2009 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Exactly!! But in this regime being disrespectful to anything America or God is a badge of courage. Meanwhile our returning vets who have put their lives on the line for America are to be considered possible terrorists? It's the upside down America and it's very sick. Barney Frank/Ted Kennedy kind of sick.


your take on this is unbelievable. it's also antithetical to what this country stands for.

dellinger63 04-19-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
your take on this is unbelievable. it's also antithetical to what this country stands for.

In the present day you are correct. In the past? How many flags were burned before Viet Nam? Heck at one time men got dressed up for a ballgame and would NEVER, EVER think of pissing during God Bless America. How this A-hole can be so disrespectful and because of it get respect is beyond me.

I know I was born 2 generations late.

Danzig 04-19-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
In the present day you are correct. In the past? How many flags were burned before Viet Nam? Heck at one time men got dressed up for a ballgame and would NEVER, EVER think of pissing during God Bless America. How this A-hole can be so disrespectful and because of it get respect is beyond me.
I know I was born 2 generations late.

big difference between saying a guy shouldn't have gotten thrown out of a game and giving him respect. if you don't do the one (beat him) it doesn't mean he gets the other. as for in the past-all we can do is learn from that and not repeat it. and on that note-advocating violence because your opinion differs from this guy is 2 generations ago stuff, so you're probably right. i think you're getting awfully offended because some guy doesn't hold a song as dearly as you do. so, he may have shown poor etiquette-that qualifies as deserving violence? don't you think you're being over-zealous?

dellinger63 04-19-2009 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
big difference between saying a guy shouldn't have gotten thrown out of a game and giving him respect. if you don't do the one (beat him) it doesn't mean he gets the other. as for in the past-all we can do is learn from that and not repeat it. and on that note-advocating violence because your opinion differs from this guy is 2 generations ago stuff, so you're probably right. i think you're getting awfully offended because some guy doesn't hold a song as dearly as you do. so, he may have shown poor etiquette-that qualifies as deserving violence? don't you think you're being over-zealous?

Yes but I too have a right to an opinion. Here's a Yankee fan's take on this guy.......

http://playingthefield.net/content/view/47/27/

cowgirlintexas 04-19-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Yes but I too have a right to an opinion. Here's a Yankee fan's take on this guy.......

http://playingthefield.net/content/view/47/27/

I think that guy(or whomever) had a right to go weather or not the song was playing..It's everyone's choice here in America to believe what they want..when they want. To be as patriotic as one chooses and to display it in the manner they choose to.

Some people choose to stand and sing, take off their hats etc.. some do not... I don't see them getting thrown out.

It's not like the guy burned a flag for Christ's sake!

Danzig 04-19-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Yes but I too have a right to an opinion. Here's a Yankee fan's take on this guy.......

http://playingthefield.net/content/view/47/27/


i don't have a problem with you disagreeing about the guys behavior. advocating violence however is crossing the line. he didn't harm anyone. but you think he should be harmed. that's just whacky.

dellinger63 04-19-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i don't have a problem with you disagreeing about the guys behavior. advocating violence however is crossing the line. he didn't harm anyone. but you think he should be harmed. that's just whacky.

Fair enough I'll call it 'giving this douche an American spanking' then. Amazing how my friends, who practice corporal punishment, kid's are so much better behaved than the 'stand in the corner' or even worse 'time out' ones which, unfortunately includes my brother and hence my neices and nephews. This jackass is a child looking for attention.

GBBob 04-19-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Fair enough I'll call it 'giving this douche an American spanking' then. Amazing how my friends, who practice corporal punishment, kid's are so much better behaved than the 'stand in the corner' or even worse 'time out' ones which, unfortunately includes my brother and hence my neices and nephews. This jackass is a child looking for attention.

No he's not...he wanted to leave his seat during a song other than OUR National Anthem. Because someone doesn't have to stand at attention to some song Kate Smith made famous doesn't make him or me un-American. I think it's more un-American to be critical of his freedoms than to do some stupid Freedom Fry thing and whine because he has the stones to stand up to some idiotic policy about a song that means nothing to this country or it's history.

What's next? This drivel after a trip to the mound? DON'T MOVE PEOPLE...IT'S LEE GREENWOOD!!
http://www.anysonglyrics.com/lyrics/...n-american.htm

jeezus tap dancing christ

Riot 04-19-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Exactly!! But in this regime being disrespectful to anything America or God is a badge of courage. Meanwhile our returning vets who have put their lives on the line for America are to be considered possible terrorists? It's the upside down America and it's very sick. Barney Frank/Ted Kennedy kind of sick.

That's not true, Dell - you've drunk the "misinterpretation everything Obama sucks" Kool Aid.

And, there is also this:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/09/obama.vets/

dellinger63 04-19-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
That's not true, Dell - you've drunk the "misinterpretation everything Obama sucks" Kool Aid.

And, there is also this:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/09/obama.vets/


awesome a back door for the Obama socialist regime to follow 'their' potential terrorists. Forget Ortega, Chavez, Kim Jong Il and Castro its our vets to be worried about!!!!! Oh and those Caribean dancers so close to each other. AMAZING.


Riot 04-20-2009 12:04 AM

The report in question does not call returning veterans potential terrorists. The report is public. Anyone can read the original for themselves.

Certainly helps showcase the veracity and reliability of certain media outlets. And how some people will believe anything they are told.

dellinger63 04-20-2009 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
The report in question does not call returning veterans potential terrorists. The report is public. Anyone can read the original for themselves.

Certainly helps showcase the veracity and reliability of certain media outlets. And how some people will believe anything they are told.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.

Enough said....... and now with Obama maintaining electronic medical records these potential terrorists can be watched closely. So Obama and Co. can enjoy the amazing caribean dancers. I think if Sadam was still alive he and Obama could have been B/F's.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009...ing-extremism/

brianwspencer 04-20-2009 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.

Enough said....... and now with Obama maintaining electronic medical records these potential terrorists can be watched closely. So Obama and Co. can enjoy the amazing caribean dancers. I think if Sadam was still alive he and Obama could have been B/F's.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009...ing-extremism/


The report, which as Riot said, you can actually read for yourself does not do any such thing.

It points out, which Napolitano has repeated ad nauseum since this report came out, that returning veterans are attractive to rightwing extremists because they possess certain skills and capabilities from their time in the military and are therefore one of the groups of people that the extremist groups will target for recruitment. This is actually not much "news" to anyone, at all. Quite obvious really, so not quite sure why everyone's up in arms...oh wait, it was an opportunity for fake outrage involving the word 'veterans,' so of course you guys can't pass it up.

It also says that there is data to show that some disgruntled vets joined white supremacist groups upon returning from war.

It does not say watch out all veterans are going to kill you and are likely to be terrorists, which is what you, Michelle Malkin, every other wingnut with a grudge would have us believe.

But you'd probably have to read it with an open mind to know that, and I may be asking a lot there. Intellectual honesty is in short supply on the right these days.

Riot 04-20-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report,

which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.

Enough said.......



LOL. News outlet slanting is the original problem. Napolitano didn't say the latter, italicized part!

The report on domestic terrorism actually says (if one would read it themselves) that right-wing groups are becoming more active, and that returning vets that do not assimilate well back into society could be targeted by these domestic terrorist groups for recruitment due to their knowledge and skills.

Is the above calling returning vets terrorists? Obviously not.

But in the blatherings of a very few right-wing editorial ultra-cons lacking reading comprehension, they read that differently, and they started the silly "the report calls our vets terrorists!" nonsense.

The actual content also apparently doesn't matter to the lazier media outlets that picked up those ultra-con accusations, then keep repeating them. Rather than reading the report themselves and presenting what it says factually. That would be so ... boring, to present the truth.

Maybe someone should give these anti-American folks, those that lie about our government, and repeatedly attack and disrepect our government and our President, an "American spanking"!

brianwspencer 04-20-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
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LOL. News outlet slanting is the original problem. Reno didn't say the italicized part!

The report on domestic terrorism actually says (if one would read it themselves) that right-wing groups are becoming more active, and that returning vets that do not assimilate well back into society could be targeted by these domestic terrorist groups for recruitment due to their knowledge and skills.

Is the above calling returning vets terrorists? Obviously not.

But in the blatherings of a very few right-wing editorial ultra-cons lacking reading comprehension, they read that differently, and they started the silly "the report calls our vets terrorists!" nonsense.

The actual content also apparently doesn't matter to the lazier media outlets that picked up those ultra-con accusations, then keep repeating them. Rather than reading the report themselves and presenting what it says factually. That would be so ... boring, to present the truth.

Maybe someone should give these anti-American folks, those that lie about our government, and repeatedly attack and disrepect our government and our President, an "American spanking"!

Turns out I could have saved myself some typing :)

Riot 04-20-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Turns out I could have saved myself some typing :)

Naw, your typing kept me from thinking I was in a weird Republican Alice In Wonderland :p

dellinger63 04-20-2009 09:08 AM

The Federal Bureau of Investigation earlier this year launched a nationwide operation targeting white supremacists and "militia/sovereign-citizen extremist groups," including a focus on veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, according to memos sent from bureau headquarters to field offices.

Nothing like a warm welcome to returning troops.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123992665198727459.html


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